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401 | Homosexual debate at school help please | 2 Cor 4:4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 168335 | ||
Thanks for the reply Robin. Any others have thoughts pertaining to how we can accomplish love of a sinner while hating sin without compromising our love or hate for either? WOS |
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402 | Homosexual debate at school help please | 2 Cor 4:4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 168375 | ||
Thanks Doc for your thoughts. Just to let you know where I stand, I agree with what was posted by Robin concerning what we are called to do and especially liked how Brother Tim reinforced and elaborated a bit further and as well what you have added. From my own standpoint, it seems to be such a daunting task for us to be able to disassociate the sin from the sinner. From my own perspective, within my immediate family, I arduously contend with alcoholics and their sinful addiction. It seems there are a few who can’t manage to socialize within a group unless the can throw back a few too many. I have taken such a dislike to their actions and what they inevitably lead to that there has grown resentment among us. I try fervently to disassociate what they do from who they are and my love for them, but the bitterness still grows and I personally have a hard time dealing with that. I love them to the point in which I cannot set idly by and I hate what they do to the point that I can’t. So it has been difficult, to say the least, to separate the sin from sinner as my love for them, in essence, compromises my hatred of their sin and my hatred of that sin does appear to compromise my love for them in the respect that our relationship changes. But I understand that I must continue to try and to that end, in all cases. I’ve tried to lead by example as well as speaking honestly to it in this particular case and pray they will see their error. “Love the sinner and hate the sin” is so very easily said, but much more difficult to live. Seems to me that I’m out of balance, but I am sure that I’ll be corrected. I’m praying that they’ll see the error of their way while I need to be looking at my own error as well and making the proper adjustments. “Thou hast no right, O Christian, to tolerate within thy bosom wrath, malice, anger, harshness, or uncharitableness, towards any creature that God's hands have made. When thou hatest the man's sins, thou art not to hate him, but to love the sinner, even as Christ loved sinners and came to seek and save them. When thou hatest a man's false doctrine, thou art still to love the man, and hate his doctrine even out of love to his soul, with an earnest desire that he may be reclaimed from his error, and brought into the way of truth. Thou hast no right to excrete thy hatred upon any creature, however fallen or debased, however much he may irritate thy temper, or injure thee in thy estate or reputation. Still hatred is a power of manhood, and we believe that all powers of manhood are to be exercised, and may every one of them be exercised as in the fear of God. It is possible to be angry, and yet sin not, and it is possible to hate, and yet not be guilty of sin, but be positively performing a duty. Christian man, thou mayest have hatred in thy heart, if thou wilt only allow it to run in one stream, then it shall not do mischief, but it shall even do good—"Ye that love the Lord, hate evil."“– C.H. Spurgeon “all sin is hateful to Christ, being contrary to his nature, to his will, and to his Gospel; and whatever is hateful to him should be to his people; and where grace is, sin will be hateful, both in themselves and others; and men's deeds may be hated when their persons are not; and hatred of sin is taken notice of by Christ, with a commendation,” – John Gill WOS |
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403 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214820 | ||
Kiley, The covenant of grace was effective and administered long before the cross. To say it is between the cross and the crown is misstating what Paul penned in Galatians for one thing. Galatians 3:7-14: 7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. 8 And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." 9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. 10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them." 11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith." 12 But the law is not of faith, rather "The one who does them shall live by them." 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us--for it is written, "Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree"-- 14 so that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we might receive the promised Spirit through faith. It was administered differently, but still there. It was being "dispensed" in the OT as well. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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404 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214821 | ||
I would agree that since the fall, it has all been grace. What else could it be.:) Stand in His grace, WOS |
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405 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214859 | ||
Beja, Can I ask why you feel tithes fall under the moral law or are still morally binding? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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406 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214874 | ||
Dear Beja, Thank you much for your response. I want to say as well, I appreciate the use of the “Tell” in your previous post. Just one note concerning giving and what you have stated in this current post I am responding to. I myself have three children and I too try to instill into them a spirit of giving because I feel that is one of my responsibilities in raising them correctly. However, I’ve come to fear that if I simply rely on my teaching and put my hope in that, I’m setting myself up for disappointment. What is it that gives us the desire to give in the first place and the longing to continue? “The fruits of righteousness are the evidences and effects of our sanctification, the duties of holiness springing from a renewed heart, the root of the matter in us. Being filled with them. Observe, Those who do much good should still endeavour to do more. The fruits of righteousness, brought forth for the glory of God and edification of his church, should really fill us, and wholly take us up. Fear not being emptied by bringing forth the fruits of righteousness, for you will be filled with them. These fruits are by Jesus Christ, by his strength and grace, for without him we can do nothing. He is the root of the good olive, from which it derives its fatness. We are strong in the grace which is in Christ Jesus (2Ti_2:1) and strengthened with might by his Spirit (Eph_3:16), and they are unto the glory and praise of God. We must not aim at our own glory in our fruitfulness, but at the praise and glory of God, that God may be glorified in all things (1Pe_4:11), and whatsoever we do we must do all to the glory of God, 1Co_10:31. It is much for the honour of God, when Christians not only are good, but do good, and abound in good works.” – Matthew Henry I want to also add, I appreciate what you have been contributing to the forum. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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407 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214892 | ||
Dear Sister Val, To avoid getting into the debate let me “tell” you where I stand :) I am not a dispensationalist and rather feel Covenantalism is a better way to view how God has dealt with us throughout time. I have a feeling that scares you a bit based on your previous posts or makes you uncomfortable. It shouldn’t. In my week and feeble attempt to study and live for God, that has become the prevalent view for me to take, although it wasn’t always. I liked Beja’s use of the “tell” because I been through the same realization. That is all. He explained it well enough in his post. Rather than post all of the Scripture I’ll simply direct you to a website that should answer for you my position on it. http://www.reformed.org/documents/wcf_with_proofs/ It is a link to the Westminster Confession of Faith Chapter VII. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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408 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214906 | ||
Yes I do take it literally for there is not any reason to consider it otherwise. The question with the Abrahamic Covenant is whether or not you view it as conditional or unconditional. If you view it as unconditional, one has to ask the question, what happened to Esau? Deuteronomy 30 shows the promise to be conditional. Only those with faith become heirs and that is through Christ. Deuteronomy 30:16-20: 16 If you obey the commandments of the LORD your God that I command you today, by loving the LORD your God, by walking in his ways, and by keeping his commandments and his statutes and his rules, then you shall live and multiply, and the LORD your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. 17 But if your heart turns away, and you will not hear, but are drawn away to worship other gods and serve them, 18 I declare to you today, that you shall surely perish. You shall not live long in the land that you are going over the Jordan to enter and possess. 19 I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live, 20 loving the LORD your God, obeying his voice and holding fast to him, for he is your life and length of days, that you may dwell in the land that the LORD swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them." As far as the land promise all cam to pass, Joshua 21:43 – 45: 43 Thus the LORD gave to Israel all the land that he swore to give to their fathers. And they took possession of it, and they settled there. 44 And the LORD gave them rest on every side just as he had sworn to their fathers. Not one of all their enemies had withstood them, for the LORD had given all their enemies into their hands. 45 Not one word of all the good promises that the LORD had made to the house of Israel had failed; all came to pass. Romans 4:13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith. It is expanded to include the whole world. Val, I try, and sometimes am not very good simply because I’m not at studied as some, to take the Bible in its totality. I’m getting better thanks be to God. Looking at individual parts and pieces can leave us wondering sometimes as I often have. Looking at the complete revelation that God has graciously given us in regard to that wondering, usually brings to light things that weren’t once illuminated. All to His glory. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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409 | Is tithing a command for chriatians? | 2 Cor 9:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 214962 | ||
Dear Beja, Val and Keliy, May I suggest you all start a new thread more appropriately titled to continue your discussion? I for one am very interested it what you all will be discussing and look forward to reading your views and would like to follow along. I'm guessing others would be too. Just a suggestion. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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410 | Beware "Another" | 2 Cor 11:4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 156480 | ||
benedictxvi@vatican.va. Although I doubt he'll reply.:) WOS |
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411 | God grant repentance? | Gal 3:23 | Wild Olive Shoot | 187506 | ||
The Gospel is hid to those who are lost. They are under the influence and power of the devil. Who among us has power over the devil that would make him relinquish his hold on the lost? To answer my own question: none but Christ. Until we are enabled by God to hear the Gospel and see it for the light it truly is, we cannot and will not hear for darkness has hold of us and we have not the ability to lift the veil on our own accord. 2Corinthians 4:2-4: 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Lest the light shine unto them… God has to act upon us or we will continue in darkness. In that darkness, how would you see the need to repent? Stand in His grace, WOS |
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412 | Are we to expect unity? | Gal 3:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170058 | ||
Dear hobbs, From where do they arise? No place particular. Just interact with people on a daily basis. Listen to conversations around you. With attention to the subject of the question, read some posts on this very forum. And yes, many do quote Scripture my friend. That is one of the things that upsets me so. Scripture is used, for the purpose of what seems to me, to further divide the Body of Christ, or try to, in many cases. I was asking what our expectations should be Brother. That’s all. Are we to expect unity or is it okay to let Word of God and misunderstood or misused Scripture further divide in an attempt to rebuild the wall of hostility that our Lord knocked down. It’s a general question and I was just simply trying to see other’s perspectives. I’m having no controversy, I’m just asking a question. WOS |
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413 | Are we to expect unity? | Gal 3:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170066 | ||
Thanks John. Although you may have misunderstood the intent behind my question as being just a question, you offered your opinion, which makes your point of view clear to me. “1 Cor 1:13 Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?” Thank you Brother. WOS |
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414 | spirtual seed? | Gal 3:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170237 | ||
Romans 11:25,26: 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The following commentary from John Gill hits the subject in great detail concerning your statement “This remnant exists not because they were born into the tribe of Israel, but because of God’s grace!” “Rom 11:25 - that ye should be ignorant of this mystery; he was desirous that they should abound and improve in all spiritual knowledge and judgment, and, among the rest, be better informed of this particular article, the call of the Jews: and his view in apprizing them of it is expressed in the following clause, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits: lest they should imagine that they were the only wise and knowing persons, and be elated in their minds with their knowledge and understanding, and look with contempt upon the poor, blind, ignorant Jews, as if they were always to remain in such a state of darkness and infidelity. The thing he had to inform them of is, that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in; by Israel is meant the Jews, the descendants of Jacob, whose name was Israel. … …This blindness "happened" to them not by chance, but befell them by the decree, and according to the will of God, who hardens whom he pleases; and according to various predictions in the Old Testament, cited in Mat_13:14; and in righteous judgment, for since they liked not to retain God and his Christ in their knowledge, it was but just in God to give them up to reprobate minds, to judicial blindness, and hardness of heart: but then this blindness only happened to them "in part"; not that it was only in some measure or some degree, for it was total, they were darkness itself, and had no spiritual and evangelic light at all on whom it fell; but that this blindness was not general with respect to persons, there were some few, a seed, a remnant, that were delivered from it, though the far greater part of the nation were involved in it, and continue in it to this day; and will do, "until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in": that is, till the whole number of God's elect among them, be called and brought into the Gospel church state, which in the latter day will be very great; when the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea; when the kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ; and the abundance of the sea shall be converted, and the forces of the Gentiles shall come to the church, and multitudes of them shall flock thither, as doves to their windows: and since the blindness of the Jews is not yet removed, it seems plain that the full number of God's chosen ones among the Gentiles is not yet completed in regeneration; for as soon as ever they are all called and brought in, the vail will be taken away from the Jews, and they will be turned unto the Lord. Rom 11:26 - And so all Israel shall be saved,.... Meaning not the mystical spiritual Israel of God, consisting both of Jews and Gentiles, who shall appear to be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation, when all God's elect among the latter are gathered in, which is the sense many give into; but the people of the Jews, the generality of them, the body of that nation, called "the fulness" of them, Rom_11:12, and relates to the latter day, when a nation of them shall be born again at once; when, their number being as the sand of the sea, they shall come up out of the lands where they are dispersed, and appoint them one head, Christ, and great shall be the day of Jezreel; when they as a body, even the far greater part of them that shall be in being, shall return and seek the Lord their God, and David their King; shall acknowledge Jesus to be the true Messiah, and shall look to him, believe on him, and be saved by him from wrath to come.” – John Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible I hope this can shed some light on the subject. WOS |
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415 | spirtual seed? | Gal 3:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170238 | ||
Jeff, If you are insinuating that in fact, another gospel has been preached somewhere in this thread, please elaborate and show where this has happened? I’ve been following along with interest and have gone back through and cannot find where this has proven to be the case. If I’m overlooking, can you please help me brother and point out the erroneous gospel? WOS |
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416 | spirtual seed? | Gal 3:28 | Wild Olive Shoot | 170284 | ||
Jeff, You’re right about the thread going off-subject as my original post was in regard to unity within the Body. But isn’t that par for the course? Seriously though, even being that it went off course, I thought there were some interesting points and responses to follow with and follow up. So I followed along and interjected where I thought I could help. Just so you know where I stand, I agree with your comment: “There is no other salvation; there is also no teaching in scripture that indicates that any individual will be saved as a result of his or her race, ethnicity, tribe, or nationality.” I believe the Word is clear that the veil will be lifted and Israel, or the remnant that is God’s, will awake from their slumber and recognize Christ, when God determines. That remnant however is of Israel. Again, I think the Word is clear on that. So no, salvation has nothing to do with race, ethnicity, tribe, or nationality and rests solely with the grace of God through faith. I just see a specific race, ethnicity, tribe, or nationality, or rather the remnant of a specific one, being called when God determines, to faith in Christ, which is the assurance of their salvation. WOS |
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417 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201693 | ||
Dear Val, You somewhat miss the point by using that verse alone. There is a bigger picture the Spirit is pointing to. Take it at least with the 3 verses that follow it to gain a better understanding. The harvest isn’t yet, but soon, hopefully. We are still sowing while we are here. Galatians 6:7-10: 7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. 10 As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith. Here is some commentary from Matthew Henry as well. “That whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap; or that according as we behave ourselves now, so will our account be in the great day. Our present time is seed-time: in the other world there will be a great harvest; and, as the husbandman reaps in the harvest according as he sows in the seedness, so we shall reap then as we sow now. And he further informs us (Gal_6:8) that, as there are two sorts of seedness, sowing to the flesh and sowing to the Spirit, so accordingly will the reckoning be hereafter: If we sow to the flesh, we shall of the flesh reap corruption. If we sow the wind, we shall reap the whirlwind. Those who live a carnal sensual life, who instead of employing themselves to the honour of God and the good of others, spend all their thoughts, and care, and time, about the flesh, must expect no other fruit of such a course than corruption - a mean and short-lived satisfaction at present, and ruin and misery at the end of it. But, on the other hand, those who sow to the Spirit, who under the guidance and influence of the Spirit do live a holy and spiritual life, a life of devotedness to God and of usefulness and serviceableness to others, may depend upon it that of the Spirit they shall reap life everlasting - they shall have the truest comfort in their present course, and an eternal life and happiness at the end of it. Note, Those who go about to mock God do but deceive themselves. Hypocrisy in religion is the greatest folly as well as wickedness, since the God we have to do with can easily see through all our disguises, and will certainly deal with us hereafter, not according to our professions, but our practices.” Stand in His grace, WOS |
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418 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201701 | ||
By the way Val, I meant no disrespect. It wasn’t that I didn’t like your answer, I simply thought it was incomplete and in that maybe a bit misleading. Not that I think it was intentional. I apologize if you took it personally as that was not my intent. After all, this is a place to study the Word, how do we do that if we can’t talk things through. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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419 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201709 | ||
Well, you’re going to have me apologizing all night aren’t you dear sister? I thought I was giving you my take when I said I thought you might have missed the point of the scripture you cited in reference to the question. As a follower of Christ, I’m under the impression that is part of our obligation to Him. The questioner didn't miss the point as it was a question being asked not an answer being given. So I responded where I thought it was appropriate. You surely don’t have to take my post as authoritative and hope that you in fact wouldn’t without your own study of the Word. And since you have already done that, and still come to a different view, you’re right, not much more we can discuss. Although, I wonder why you think I was correcting you? I was simple expanding on God’s word because it seemed to more thoroughly explain reaping and sowing in the context of just more than one verse. Was that wrong? Would you have been as offended if I made the same post to the original question? And at that point, why? Val, I’m just trying to understand why you feel your post to the original question is in itself not supposed to be questioned? Aren’t we supposed to lift each other up? 1Thessalonians 5:11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do. Romans 14:19 Let us therefore follow after the things which make for peace, and things wherewith one may edify another. Or do you feel because I tried to live up to those facts that I in some way belittled you? I’m truly sorry if I expressed anything other than love for God’s Word and inadvertently offended you. But I truly hope that if another on this forum could expand on and elaborate on a post that I make, they would do it. Because as you are sure of some things, I’m sure that I do not know it all and am growing each and every day. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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420 | Retribution? | Gal 6:7 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201724 | ||
Jeff, It was surely thought provoking and I’m glad I had the opportunity to respond. I know in my own house, it sparked some good conversation and further exploration of the Word from my wife and me. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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