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401 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161109 | ||
But I do see evidence although I do not look for it. I have the eyewitness accounts of the Gospel and the writings of men guided by the Holy Spirit. I don’t feel you are trying to avoid something you don’t like in the Bible, I think you have issues with whether or not it is the word of God and what that actually means. I’m okay with that and trust that if you are truly seeking the truth, God will reveal it in His own time to you. To me, it’s the Word of God simply because He authored it in the sense that He made the Divine Inspiration possible for the men to pen what they did. God chose to reveal to us what He deemed necessary through the strokes of the pens of ordinary men. He’s a magnificent God, capable of more than we could ever imagine. WOS |
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402 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161107 | ||
First of all, you cannot keep claiming the New Testament is accurate and reliable and then turn around and not accept what it says. It describes what faith is. You do not accept that definition but yet you still claim it is reliable and accurate. You see how when you start picking and choosing, it begins to unravel. So now, only some of it is accurate and reliable? There is power in God’s word my friend. More power than any book written by any other could ever muster. So if I had a choice between reading God’s inspired revelation to man or those other titles you mention, I choose the Bible. Jesus claimed He is the Way, the Truth, the resurrection and the life. We know Him to be the Son of God, our Savior and Lord. He claims that He is the only way, so whatever other religions claim is false. I have faith in my Lord that what he spoke was true. Therefore I also have faith, so to speak, that all other claims of faith are false and not worthy of attention. You cannot claim faith across the board or think that everyone has an entitlement to their own faith in whatever they believe. You establish your faith in Christ and holdfast that He is true. You know false claims of faith are just that. Why would you even attempt to use an argument of that nature? WOS |
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403 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161102 | ||
Inspired in this sense, is being under the influence of. Being guided by. If a person inspires you to do something, you still remain in full control, functioning upon your on will. The Holy Spirit of God is an altogether different entity. To be guided and led by God and to simply be inspired by another person to perform an act are not even comparable. Do you think they are? WOS |
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404 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161027 | ||
Lead pipe, You claim: "Faith comes from evidence, anyone who trusts their eternal destiny on something without evidence is never truly sure." My friend, you don't come close to God's definition of faith. Read Hebrews 11:1,2. 1Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. 2This is what the ancients were commended for. That's what faith is, there is no "evidence". Faith does not come from evidence, it comes from hearing God's word. Romans 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ. Repost ID# 160873: Dear hetfield, I’ll offer my opinion if you’ll hear it: Our Bible, both Old and New Testaments are the inspired word of God. I’ve seen a definition of biblical inspiration that states it is “the Work of the Holy Spirit by which, without setting aside their personalities and literary or human faculties, God so guided the authors of Scripture as to enable them to write exactly the words which convey His truth to men, and in doing so preserved their judgments from error in the original manuscripts.” Through (fallible) human authors, God manifested the infallible and errorless writings, which convey His messages. If you admit that the New Testament is not the inspired word of God, you must admit then, that is simply the work of fallible humans. If that is the case, how can you further attest to its accuracy and usefulness and its reliability. Throughout the ages men have proven to be unreliable and to history’s account, well history, or our perception of it, depends on who we are and who’s account we read. Example: George Washington was a great hero to the Revolutionary Army of the colonial United States. To England, he was a traitor. His character is depicted differently depending on whose version you read. The same can be said of Benedict Arnold. He was a national hero in one view, a treasonous rebel in another. So to put your trust in the historicity of the New Testament while it was composed and written by uninspired men is dangerous to say the least. How do you know for sure that it is the undeniable truth? If written by uninspired men and therefore not the word of God, then you never really can. Can you? History is infested with fallacy. The New Testament is more than just simply some historical document. It is part of God’s revelation to man. We damage so severely the word of God, our Bible, when we think we can play God and pick and choose what Scripture is inspired and which is not. In doing so, quite quickly, the rest of the Bible begins to unravel. Only God has the authority to decide what is inspired and what is not. Scripture attests to the fact that all of it is inspired, as has been pointed out by numerous people throughout this thread. You can claim this is circular reasoning but that is God’s reasoning. He determined to inspire the men He did to record His word. If God is truth: (John 3:33, Romans 3:4) then you must admit that what is breathed out by God must also be true and infallible. The Holy Spirit is the inspiration behind the Prophets and Apostles. They spoke the truth predicated on that inspiration, which was then recorded for our benefit and secured by God Himself through His Holy Spirit, to ensure that was recorded, remained unadulterated by the “fallible” human authors. Now the Bible cannot save you, that is for sure. But it can direct your ways to discover the One who can, which you attest to already knowing. You seem to put your faith in Christ and strongly and consistently state that, but you diminish the authority of the Word that pointed you in His direction. As you stated: “I can and do believe in Jesus because of the bible.” If your faith is in Christ and your salvation is true, it is because the Holy Spirit, a work of God has made it so. The same Holy Spirit that so divinely inspired the written Word of God in which you question. Just some thoughts. WOS |
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405 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 161004 | ||
Yes, He inspired it. I believe I stated that in my post #160873. The words are His words because His Holy Spirit inspired and guided those that wrote them. WOS |
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406 | calling all sinners | Matt 13:11 | Wild Olive Shoot | 160786 | ||
Ebrain, You stated: “If when you read, it is your will that God's will be done, and you really mean it, then you will know exactly what God is saying to you.” I don’t necessarily disagree with you and can’t really, but I believe God has determined to use others as well, to edify us for whatever reason. The verses you pointed out do support your statement but I think it is also important to realize that God can, and does, not only use His word to instruct us, but men who our strong in its understanding as well. I’d point out Acts 8:26-40. There is no indication that the Ethiopian was reading and not really trying to know the truth. He was in Jerusalem to worship after all. For whatever purpose God intended, He determined to send Philip to teach this man about the Christ. I think this shows that not always do we have the capacity to understand, due to our own self or some other means, and therefore God has bestowed upon certain men the ability to teach His word when and where He may have determined. I know many times I have read God’s word and have struggled with it. But thanks to Him, He has allowed me the opportunity to associate with men who are well grounded in His word who have properly instructed me otherwise. There are many good teachers, pastors and ministers whose calling is to teach the word of God and instruct others in His word. Don’t unintentionally sell them short. God has seen a purpose for them and we should recognize that. Just some thoughts brother. WOS |
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407 | Paradise on earth | Revelation | Wild Olive Shoot | 160420 | ||
Read Revelation 21 in its entirety. Verses one through five are below. Revelation 21 (NIV) 1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." 5He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true." Also see Isaiah: Isaiah 65:17-18 (NIV) 17 "Behold, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind. 18 But be glad and rejoice forever in what I will create, for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight and its people a joy. Isaiah 66:22-23 (NIV) 22 "As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me," declares the LORD, "so will your name and descendants endure. 23 From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the LORD. WOS |
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408 | Adam's or God's likeness? | Gen 5:3 | Wild Olive Shoot | 160303 | ||
Doc, I realize in my last post there was no reference to Scripture as to why I have the opinion I have. Please allow me to quickly follow up and I hope I get this out prior to you commenting. Gen 9:6: God indicated to Noah that it was unacceptable for another person to be killed. God states that man is still made in His image. I would tend to think that applies to us today as well. I apologize for not including this with my last post. WOS |
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409 | Adam's or God's likeness? | Gen 5:3 | Wild Olive Shoot | 160301 | ||
Brother Doc, Hah! You should know by now that I stay confused. By the way, glad to be back. Business had me traveling for a while. I sure missed you folks. Anyway… I don’t disagree that my references are as if comparing apples and oranges. Though they are two completely different subjects in their entirety, they are derived from the same source aren’t they? My implication was that that God created man in His own image. In that image, man was given freewill; God permitted disobedience, which in essence was the catalyst in the fall. Man freely chose to disobey. We still have that “characteristic” today which was originally placed into man by God. We still have other godly “characteristics” that are indicative of our Creator and being formed in His image. Therefore, my thoughts are that even today, in our sinfulness, in our morally corrupt nature, we still have the ability to choose to honor God and obey, which we had from the beginning, and to what I think the Word is referencing, in part, when it tells us we were made in God’s image, that we have certain abilities bestowed upon us that are derived from God and only God. My thinking, and I’m not real sure now, is that our parents were made in God’s image. The fall shouldn’t negate that fact since it was “post-creation”, for lack of better terminology. Since we multiply and reproduce in kind, don’t we all reflect that same image? I don’t necessarily think of it as whether or not Adam had the “ability” to pass this image to his children. It was God that started the process and continues it from generation to generation. You did point to the repetition of “in his likeness” as being contrasting. But I didn’t necessarily get from it that the contrast was in the context that we no longer remain in the likeness of God. Unless I take that statement in conjunction with “Adam could not pass on the image of God, who are all conceived in sin.” Adam was not able but does God perform this work? Where my apples and oranges comparison is applicable: just as we have no control over imputed sin, we have no control over God’s image remaining part of what constitutes us as being human, which by the way, I think is what, in part, keeps us separate from every other everything of God’s creation. I agree with your statement: “The imago Dei existed in man before the fall. After the fall, it was marred and distorted.” It may be marred and distorted, but it is still there. Is it not? I guess the point I was trying to convey to searcher56 should have been just that. WOS PS: I think I just confused myself! |
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410 | Adam's or God's likeness? | Gen 5:3 | Wild Olive Shoot | 160295 | ||
If sin can be passed from generation to generation, or rather our sinful nature, then why couldn’t the “image of God” be passed from generation to generation? If our sinful nature can be traced and accredit to Adam and Eve, why don’t we trace our likeness to God or being made in His image the same. God made male and female in His image knowing good and well they would fall, but yet it still pleasured Him to do so. Simply because Adam and Eve fell doesn’t actually change the fact that they were still made in God’s image. The fact that we were created in the image of God, as a reflection, seems evident today and still yet to come. Couldn’t the references to God’s likeness and Adam’s likeness in Gen. 5 simply indicate that Adam was created sinless (by God) but the generations to follow would not be in a sinless state due to the fall? If we are not made in God’s image, then who’s? Man’s? If the latter, do you really believe we are still able to give glory to God or would even want to for that matter. C. S. Lewis wrote that God was the source from which all of our reasoning power comes. I agree with him, and if that is true, we have to be able to reflect some of God’s characteristics, which would seem to indicate, we are in His likeness, yes even today. WOS |
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411 | An Exegete of Acts 2 | Acts 2:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 159156 | ||
I’m going to offer my opinion on this whether it is warranted or not. Personally, I disagree with your assessment of Doc and what he offers to the forum and will confidently state there are far many more that would also disagree with you than agree. It’s obvious that Doc has come to his standing and belief based on years of diligently searching Scripture for the truth and has formed his opinions based on those studies. His knowledge and elucidation of what he has learned to others, has proven to be nothing less than helpful in my search for the truth and I’m sure he has been more helpful than not to many more. I say this knowing that I have at times disagreed with Doc on certain subject matter but even so, I would never disregard what he says and would do myself wrong if I did not honestly consider his views. (Just to let you know, in my humble opinion, he has proven worthy and correct time and time again) There are many others using this forum that have known Doc much longer and could state from their experience of how his activity on the forum is helpful. One will find criticism whenever one looks for it. One will also find offense when opinions differ. That’s just life isn’t it? It’s all about the perspective one has when discussing a certain topic. I have found Mark’s post to be as helpful as Doc’s, I just haven’t personally conversed with Mark as often as I would like to. Differing opinions and thorough discussion of a topic is helpful to most forum members, I would assume, as it allows one to research, study and learn and form their own opinion. What kind of world would we live in if we couldn’t form our own opinions and then respectfully share those with others? I guess I’ll leave my two cents at that. I think both Doc and Mark have proven to be nothing less than beneficial to the forum, or at least in my short experience with it. To be honest, I’ve seen harsh criticism on the forum, not siding one way or another as to whether or not it was called for, but Doc’s posts are what I would consider, mild mannered, compared to some. You stated: “What I do believe is that pride sometimes stands in the way of one ever excepting that he/she may be wrong or from excepting that he/she may not know.” Pride will also stand in the way of one accepting another’s personal views that disagree with their own and can even lead to rash and harsh criticism when we feel we have been belittled, when in fact, that may not have been the case. Respectfully, WOS |
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412 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 158777 | ||
sid, You state: “Besides that, you should know that flies do not smell.” Sorry, but I have never felt the need to find out first hand. That’s one of those things in which I’ll simply take the author’s words as being true. Proverbs 30:5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. Besides, I do know what stinks, and dead flies aren’t as concerning. Psalm 38:5 My wounds stink and are corrupt because of my foolishness. “Nothing will disquiet the heart of a good man so much as the sense of God's anger. The way to keep the heart quiet, is to keep ourselves in the love of God. But a sense of guilt is too heavy to bear; and would sink men into despair and ruin, unless removed by the pardoning mercy of God. If there were not sin in our souls, there would be no pain in our bones, no illness in our bodies. The guilt of sin is a burden to the whole creation, which groans under it. It will be a burden to the sinners themselves, when they are heavy-laden under it, or a burden of ruin, when it sinks them to hell. When we perceive our true condition, the Good Physician will be valued, sought, and obeyed. Yet many let their wounds rankle, because they delay to go to their merciful Friend. When, at any time, we are distempered in our bodies, we ought to remember how God has been dishonoured in and by our bodies. The groanings which cannot be uttered, are not hid from Him that searches the heart, and knows the mind of the Spirit. David, in his troubles, was a type of Christ in his agonies, of Christ on his cross, suffering and deserted.” – Matthew Henry WOS |
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413 | "Flies" should read "given" | Eccl 10:1 | Wild Olive Shoot | 158748 | ||
Hi sid, Please help me out a bit if you would. You stated: “"Death given" (10.1) is about the death of Israel being prophesied in Verse 3.2. Matthew Henry and Andrew Fausset agree with this interpretation of Verse 3.2.” Can you please point me to your source on that? As far as I have read Matthew Henry’s commentary, I cannot see where he referenced Ecc. 3:2 in regards to Ecc. 10:1. I’m not saying he hasn’t, just that I haven’t seen it. Or are “you” claiming that Ecc. 10:1 is referencing Ecc. 3:2 based on your own interpretation? Also, if you would, please explain to me how Ecc. 10:1 can make any sort of sense if “flies” should read “given”? “(Death) ???GIVEN??? cause the ointment of the apothecary to send forth a stinking savor: so doth a little folly him that is in reputation for wisdom and honor.” I am by no means qualified to interpret but my common sense tells me that the verse rendered your way lacks any real sort of meaning. Ecc 10:1-3 - In these verses Solomon shows, What great need wise men have to take heed of being guilty of any instance of folly; for a little folly is a great blemish to him that is in reputation for wisdom and honour, and is as hurtful to his good name as dead flies are to a sweet perfume, not only spoiling the sweetness of it, but making it to send forth a stinking savour. Note, 1. True wisdom is true honour, and will gain a man a reputation, which is like a box of precious ointment, pleasing and very valuable. 2. The reputation that is got with difficulty, and by a great deal of wisdom, may be easily lost, and by a little folly, because envy fastens upon eminency, and makes the worst of the mistakes and miscarriages of those who are cried up for wisdom, and improves them to their disadvantage; so that the folly which in another would not be taken notice of in them is severely censured. Those who make a great profession of religion have need to walk very circumspectly, to abstain from all appearances of evil, and approaches towards it, because many eyes are upon them, that watch for their halting; their character is soon sullied, and they have a great deal of reputation to lose.” -- Matthew Henry “He recommends wisdom to private persons, who are in an inferior station. 1. It is our wisdom to preserve our reputation, in managing our affairs dexterously (Ecc_10:1-3).” -- Matthew Henry WOS |
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414 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | 2 Tim 2:25 | Wild Olive Shoot | 158415 | ||
Call it what you may, I know what it is and so do you. WOS |
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415 | Regarding earlier post (thread) 156868 | 2 Tim 2:25 | Wild Olive Shoot | 158412 | ||
Pay close attention to the last Mark, for it seems you are beyond the point of simply trying to be helpful or uplifting. I sense, and have for some time, that you’re posting simply to stir dissension. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. Proverbs 6:16-19 (NIV) 16 There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers. WOS |
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416 | Does sin prove one is not a believer? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157976 | ||
You state: "I suggest each and every one of you to go back to the beginning, read the Bible through from Gen. to Rev. paying special close attention to every place this subject is mentioned." Very sound advice and some that I will take. But I believe I'm bound to come to the same conclusion. Christ Himself stated that once we believe we would not parish. I'm not one to call Christ a liar. Eternal is forever. For God to grant us eternal life and then take it away due to some sin we commit, well, then its not eternal is it. Somehow, we should learn that God is more than capable of keeping His, regardless of how important we think we are and how much damage we believe we can do to God's perfect plan. Nothing compares to Him. Not you, not I. WOS |
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417 | Does sin prove one is not a believer? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157972 | ||
You say: "God is the God of justice as well as the God of love. Where is the justice of condeming someone for something they haven't done yet? May not even do when the time comes? What has happened to freedom of choice now?" I'd have to ask; what happened to an all knowing God? There isn't any "may not" with God. He knows the sins that will be committed and in Christ we have forgiveness for those. It's not that difficult. WOS |
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418 | Does sin prove one is not a believer? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157954 | ||
Philippians 1:6 John 6:39 John 17:12 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 1 Peter 1:3-5 1 John 4:4 John 10:27-30 John 3:16 Titus 3:7 In case we don't know what eternal means, it means forever, never ending, once we have it, we have it always. WOS I didn't quote anybody. |
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419 | Does sin prove one is not a believer? | 1 Cor 6:9 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157917 | ||
David24597, You ask: “What difinitive evidence do you have from scripture alone that states the saved can not fall again into a state of being "unsaved" (for lack of a better word).” John 10:27, 28 Romans 14:4 2Timothy 1:12 Jude 1:24 Below is from Lewis Sperry Chafer: God has not only revealed Himself as Creator and Lord of all, but it has pleased Him to give the most minute and exact assurance of His ability to do for His child that which He purposed in the ages past. Speaking of what He would have us know, it is said: "And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power, which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly (Eph 1:19, 20). "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any (created thing) pluck them out of my hand" (Jhn 10:27, 28). This is true of "my sheep." No power created is sufficient to pluck them out of His hand. Even the "free will" of the sheep cannot, and will not, bring him to the point of perishing. "Who are thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand" (Rom 14:4). "I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him (guard my deposit) against that day" (2Ti 1:12). "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling (stumbling) and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy" (Jud 1:24). Such is the testimony of the Holy Spirit concerning the sufficient power of God for the believer's eternal keeping. – Lewis Sperry Chafer Not only is it revealed that God is disposed to keep the one whom He has saved, but the true child of God is also a gift of the Father to the Son (Jhn 10:29; 17:6, 9, 11) and has been committed to the keeping power of the Father by the prayer of the Son. "Holy Father keep." That prayer will be answered. Thus it may be concluded that should the saved one be lost, the eternal purpose of God will have been thwarted. Admitting this, it must be concluded that He Who can design a universe whose remotest star shall not deviate by a second from its appointments throughout the ages; Who can plan the universe from the highest arch-angel to the marvelous organism of the smallest insect; Whose purpose has never yet been known to fail—that such a God may be defeated by the mere creature His hands have made. If the saved one is finally lost, it must also be concluded that God is, to that degree, lacking in power. He Who has testified that not one of His sheep will ever perish, must yet retract His bold assertions and humbly submit to a power that is greater than His own. He Who created and holds the universe in His hands; Who calls things that are not as though they were; Who could speak the word and dismiss every atom of matter and life from existence forever must retire before the over-lordship of some creature of His hand. And, lastly, admitting the revelation concerning God's eternal purpose and His infinite power to accomplish that purpose, if it could still be proven that the saved one might be lost we would be shut up to the one and final conclusion that it could be so only because the All-powerful God did not sufficiently care to keep those whom His power had created as new-born children. But what do we find? The revelation is full of testimony concerning that very care. Who can measure the revealed devotion of His boundless love toward the objects of His saving grace? Who will dare claim that He will not answer the prayer of His Son? – Lewis Sperry Chafer Chafer, Lewis Sperry. "Chapter Eleven: The Eternal Security of the Believer, Part 2." Salvation. Blue Letter Bible. 10 May 2004. 31 May 2005. http://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/lewis_chafer/salvation/ WOS |
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420 | The Contented Man | Heb 13:5 | Wild Olive Shoot | 157263 | ||
Doc, Thank you for the response Brother. So you say; “Complacency, in my opinion, is often a cover for laziness.” Isn’t that the truth! That was I for so long and even to an extent now. I had contentment in my salvation in that mere fact that I had it. I had no commitment or desire to know God beyond that. Malachi was a wake up call for me. Thank God he placed a desire within me to know Him and His word and to put forth the effort to do so. I am content with what I have. Knowing it all comes from God anyhow and is His to take should He desire. (Job 1:21) I’m satisfied being a caretaker. My desire for more, however covetousness, is directed toward my children. I have within me the want for them to have an easier life than I. That is something I personally deal with. I am grateful that I’ll have the opportunity to provide spiritual guidance, so to speak, something I did not have when I was young. That is more than I could ever provide them within and from a worldly perspective and I know that will suffice, but yet the drive is to give them a head start on what the world will throw at them. I thank you again for your response. You say; “We should have a continuous hunger for the things of God (Psalm 42:1). We should be willing to give up everything, to obtain the Kingdom of God (Matthew 13:44). Indeed, we should be "violent" in the pursuit of it (Matthew 11:12).” I say; Amen! I do hope there are others who will take a moment and share their view as well. WOS |
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