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161 | Mark of the Beast | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167232 | ||
Hi Doc, I am not trying to get off track here. Your original question was: "Are the other things in Revelation 13 understood to be literal, physical things: beasts, dragons, horns, heads, etc.?" In this I understand you to be asking about how to interpret each of the individual elements contained within this chapter. I could answer that, but it would require some time and length of posting to accomplish it. I don't mind doing that, mind you. Much of this I would simply pull from my study notes, to combine with fresh study, as I always like to review complex topics as I write about them. So I asked if there was something in particular. Then you wrote: "On what hermeneutical principle of apocalyptic exegesis does one switch back and forth from literal interpretation to figurative interpretation?" Now, this is different from the original question, of "are these literal or symbols", and has become, "how do you decide it they are literal or symbols?" But you asked a somewhat loaded question, since you are asking about "apocalyptic exegesis". I do not attempt apocalyptic exegesis, since I do not consider the Revelation to be of that genre. So before I try to explain how to peel an orange, I want to make sure you aren't thinking of an apple. I don't do apples. :-) But to try to cut to the center, at least, what I think the center is, I do what the text tells me to do. If John says he saw a sign, then this means something that is indicated by what he saw. If he says he saw something happen, then I expect that what he saw is something that is going to happen. I draw heavily from the Old Testament, especially Genesis, Daniel, and Zechariah, but not only those. I haven't counted myself, but I have been told there are over 800 OT allusions within the Book of the Revelation. I believe the Revelation is meant to do just that - Reveal, not conceal. And if you start interpreting beyond what is specifically allowed by the text, you can make it say whatever you want. But I'm sorry, I tend to ramble (perhaps you've seen this before in me) ;-) So I'm all little confused. Did you wish to know about the literalness of the mark of the beast, or about the dragon, and beasts, and the rest of the chapter, or what do you want me to answer? (if I already haven't) Love in Christ Mark |
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162 | ... | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167241 | ||
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163 | Mark of the Beast | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167266 | ||
Hi John, On your question 1, the Greek word is "apokalupsis", which is from "apokalupto", which means "to take off the cover". To unveil, to reveal. So "apokalupsis" would mean "the unveiling". On you question 2, the following is from the "online etymology dictionary": "c.1303, "disclosure of information to man by a divine or supernatural agency," from O.Fr. revelacion, from L. revelationem (nom. revelatio), from revelatus, pp. of revelare (see reveal). General meaning "disclosure of facts" is attested from c.1375; meaning "striking disclosure" is from 1862. As the name of the last book of the New Testament (Revelation of St. John), it is first attested c.1400 (see apocalypse); as simply Revelations, it is first recorded 1691." Regarding your question 3, I have included the definition above, in 1. Perhaps this will help: There is a body of literature known as Hebrew Apocalyptic. Some examples of this are: Book of Heavenly Luminaries 250 B.C. Ethiopic Enoch circa 175 B.C. Jubilees circa 150 B.C. Testament of Levi 137-107 B.C. Similitudes of Enoch circa 50 B.C. Slavonic Enoch 1-100 C.E. Ezra Apocalypse 100-120 C.E. Syriac Baruch 2 Baruch 100-120 C.E. Testament of Abraham 75-125 C.E. Apocalypse of Abraham 70-150 C.E. These writings are grouped together largely because of their claim to speak of the future, and that they are filled with symbols and obscure references that lack any kind of clear meaning. The name of this genre is a more modern choice, and comes out of secular study of ancient literature. Many will include Zephaniah, Zechariah, Daniel, and the Revelation as a part of this genre. I do not. The writings named above, excluding those of the Biblical Canon, are not inspired Scripture, therefore, are not to be considered in the same way as inspired Scripture. So to answer your question, there are a number of different opinions regarding understanding Hebrew Apocalyptic Literature. Some will try to apply those ideas to the inspired prophetic writings in the Bible. I do not believe that is proper, and I apply the same rules to prophetic passages as I do to non-prophetic passages. What may perhaps be my primary disagreement with those who want to lump these together is that they will go on to say that you can't understand the Biblical prophetic writings any more than you can understand any of the Hebrew Apocalyptic. God put these prophetic passages in the Bible to give information by His Spirit to His children, not to hide it from them, and so I believe that they can in fact be understood, by diligent study, by prayer, by the revelatory work of the Holy Spirit. Does this help? Let me know if you have any other questions. Love in Christ, Mark |
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164 | Mark of the Beast | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167344 | ||
Hi Doc, Thank you for the clarification. Indeed, the Revelation is the true apocalypse. The problem is, "apocalyptic" has been hijacked to define literature which is not Biblical, through no fault of yours! :-) The simple answer to your question is this: The hermenuetical principle of Biblical exegesis one uses to distinguish between literal interpretation and figurative interpretation is to only treat as figurative that which is specifically presented as figurative, and that which is presented as literal, treat as literal. To this I would addd that we must define symbols and terminology only by those definitions that are given in Scripture. Also, we should only take time related cues strictly from the text, and not rearrange events just because that seems to make more sense to us. Also, we need to combine the study of the Revelation with a thorough study of the Bible itself, as many details are explained and elaborated upon by other passages. In a nutshell, Scripture interprets Scripture, just like with any other book of the Bible. I don't have the time right now to add an example, but I will post something later this week that will show you how I understand this chapter. Thank you for your patience. Love in Christ, Mark |
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165 | Rod Parsley: The Raging Prophet | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167495 | ||
Hi Kalos, Can you say "itching ears"? These are the things people want to hear! "I don't have to suffer." "I can have everything I want." "I can tell God what to do." Isaiah 57:15 For thus says the One who is high and lifted up, who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: "I dwell in the high and holy place, and also with him who is of a contrite and lowly spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly, and to revive the heart of the contrite. The truth is so much better! Love in Christ, Mark |
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166 | Are these essentials for Salvation? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167518 | ||
Amen, Doc! The seasons of sin are deep and dark and miserable night, from which I sometimes can hardly believe that I can truly be cleansed, for sin is so vile. But as a child of God I can say with Paul, 1 Cor 15:10 "by the grace of God I am what I am," and the tears that flow most freely from my eyes are those that come with each realization of the depths that our Lord Jesus traveled to find me, even such as I am, and the heights He has lifted me up to, and will lift me up. God bless you me brother! Love in Christ, Mark |
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167 | Loving others as though they R better | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167780 | ||
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168 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167937 | ||
Hi Mitch, How is it that you define Scripturally praying in the Spirit as praying in tongues? Love in Christ, Mark |
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169 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167950 | ||
Hi Mitch, Thank you for your kind words. I will try to be worthy of them, and I know that I am not always. What you are saying is neither new nor unusual. I would like to look at the verse you quoted, and a verse about praying in the Spirit. In 1 Cor 14:15, Paul says "What then is it? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the mind; I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the mind." This is from the JP Green Literal Version (LITV). In vs. 14, Paul says, "if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays." In verse 15, "spirit" and "mind" are both in the Dative Case, signifying direction, location, or instrumentality. The context from verse 14 tells us this is instrumentality, he prays with his spirit, or by means of his spirit, or mind. There is nothing in the text to suggest that vs. 15 uses these words any differently. So praying with his spirit is praying in tongues, and praying with his mind is normal language prayer. Now look at Eph 6:18 "through all prayer and petition, praying at all times in the Spirit, and watching to this same thing with all perseverance and petition concerning all the saints." Here, Spirit is in the same Dative Case, for direction, location, or instrumentality, but it is preceded by the Greek "en", "in the Spirit". This is not present in the Corinthians passage, but here it signals that the correct meaning is Location. We pray, being in the Spirit. So one is instrumental, using our spirit, the other is locational, being in His Spirit. Let me know your thoughts. I would suggest downloading e-sword.net, and using the Greek and Hebrew study helps to get you started. I also recommend the blueletterbible.org. These have be invaluable to me. Love in Christ, mark Love in Christ, Mark |
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170 | Gift of speaking in tongues for all? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 167960 | ||
Hi Mitch, No, I disagree with the idea that praying in the Spirit is equal to praying in tongues. I think that Paul was giving general teaching about the spiritual gifts in 1 Cor 12, not just directed towards conduct when meeting together. Certainly portions of ch. 14 are of that, but in 12 where he indicates that not all speak in tongues, I think that was general instruction. Love in Christ, Mark |
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171 | Interlinear Gr-Eng NT--please advise | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168218 | ||
Hi Kalos, The Jay P. Green Greek-English Interlinear New Testament has nearly all the features you are looking for. It has the Strong's numbers above the Greek text, with literal word for word translation below the text. It does not have tranliterations. It also includes Greens literal translation (LITV) in the margin, with the KJV in the other margin for comparison. It is based on the Received Text. My OT and NT volume of Green's Interlinear also has a list in the back of the Majority Mss Variants. I do not know if that is in this volume. While it does not have the Strong's numbers, I more often use the George R. Berry Interlinear NT. It has the Received Greek Text, with literal tranlations under each word, and KJV in the margin. Two key advangtages for me in this book are a lexicon in the back of the book, and variants listed on each page, from (I think) 8 editorial sources. I hope this helps! Love in Christ, Mark |
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172 | Where did Noah and the ark begin? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168318 | ||
Hi aflame, The Bible doesn't tell us where Noah lived, or where the ark was built. Love in Christ, Mark |
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173 | How is Ray? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168471 | ||
Hi Justme, Please send me your email (markdseyler@yahoo.com) and I will forward it to Ray, and let him know you would like to hear from him. Love in Christ, Mark |
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174 | How is Ray? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168472 | ||
Hi Justme, I'm sorry, I have to retract that. I had his email, but I don't seem to have it anymore! If I hear from him, I will let him know you would like to hear from him. God Bless! Mark |
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175 | How is Ray? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168476 | ||
If I am able to, my brother! Calling Ray... Come in, Ray... Mark |
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176 | How is Ray? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168529 | ||
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177 | How is Ray? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168530 | ||
Hi Justme, You can email our brother Ray at cvanderh@earthlink.net. He will be happy to hear from you. God Bless! Mark |
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178 | get up from praying | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 168977 | ||
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179 | Matt Chtp 5 | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 169177 | ||
Hi Leia, Look at what Peter wrote: 1 Pet 3:14 But even if you should suffer for the sake of righteousness, you are blessed. AND DO NOT FEAR THEIR INTIMIDATION, AND DO NOT BE TROUBLED, 1 Pet 3:15 but sanctify Christ as Lord in your hearts, always being ready to make a defense to everyone who asks you to give an account for the hope that is in you, yet with gentleness and reverence; 1 Pet 3:16 and keep a good conscience so that in the thing in which you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior in Christ will be put to shame. 1 Pet 3:17 For it is better, if God should will it so, that you suffer for doing what is right rather than for doing what is wrong. This seems to me to directly apply to the situation you described. In as much as you patiently endured the evil done to you, you did the will of God. Paul also wrote: Titus 2:9 Urge bondslaves to be subject to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, Titus 2:10 not pilfering, but showing all good faith so that they will adorn the doctrine of God our Savior in every respect. No matter how she came to be your boss, no matter how she acted as your boss, your responsibility to her is the same. So again, to the extent that you fulfilled these things, you fulfilled the will of God. 2 Cor 4:17 For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison, 2 Cor 4:18 while we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen; for the things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal. Love in Christ, Mark |
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180 | Math chpt 5. need blance..... | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 169181 | ||
Hi Leia, There is a side to this that I think we sometimes overlook. People don't always realize what it is that they are doing. I say this in reference to those who would hurt, abuse, or otherwise use us. As Christians, we are called to gentleness, to not return evil for evil, and to even allow ourselves to be taken advantage of. We are even told to give extra than required, and to not always seek to redress wrongs. You ask a great question, Where is the balance? Jesus could have at any moment stopped the beatings, mockings, and execution. The Priests and Pharisees were certainly taking advantage of the fact that He didn't. The were abusing Him with the intent of getting Him out of the way of their lucrative business ripping people off in the temple. They were hurting Him, even killing Him, to retain their power-hold over the people. To the Priests and Pharisees, Jesus' death was a stepping stone to their own riches and power. Jesus let them. And why? 1 Peter 2 21 For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps, 22 who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in his mouth; 23 and while being reviled, He did not revile in return; while suffering, He uttered no threats, but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously; He entrusted Himself to the Father, the Righteous Judge. People don't always know what is really happening. The Priests and Pharisees didn't know: 1 Cor 2 6 Yet we do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; 7 but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; 8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory; They didn't know what they were actually doing to Jesus. Other people don't know what they are actually doing to us. They think they are hurting us, using us, abusing us, but in reality they are providing the backdrop, the circumstance, that God is using to perfect us, to sanctify us, to teach us how to follow His Word in our daily lives. There is fellow I know who ends his letters in a way that has impressed itself on me permanently: "The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love." You are in my prayers. Love in Christ, Mark |
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