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141 | Did Moses seen God face to face? | Ex 33:20 | jlpangilinan | 26893 | ||
Ge 32:30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. Here it is very clear my friend, Jacob seen God face to face about manoah and his wife it is stated it is only thier manifestation, and if you read it carefully there is an explaination that they are mistaken. But in the writings of Moses about jacobs there is no manifestation afterwards, moses was very sure in his writings. He is the man of God a representative of the law, we know he knew what he is doing, otherwise what kind of prophet he is? Your Statement:"But, he did not see his face, but His back (Exo 33:20-23)." You are truly right in this particular instances, let me again put the wrote of John: Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Did John emphasize any part of God? Did John mentioned face only or back or right jew of left hand? He said "No man hath seen God at any time;" I dont care it is back or feet but the God Himself. Your statement"All of these could of been Jesus. He had other preincarnate appearances." NO! The God that moses knows at the time is God the father, He gave His name to moses, and it was Jehovah, in the KJV (althought some translations it was Yaweh.)And in the new testament Jesus Christ never mentioned that His own name was Jehovah. We know that Jesus Christ, as the God the Son is existed before the world created but His existence is not yet proclaim to the human kind.: Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. In that passages it is the Father porclaim that the Throne is for God the son. Moses doesnt know that.Moses was the prophet of God he know if he seen God or not, otherwise what kind of prophet he is? |
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142 | Did Moses seen God face to face? | Ex 33:20 | jlpangilinan | 26960 | ||
Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Ok Tim, I would like to weigh here is the statement of John that "No man has seen God at any time" Did John emphasize any part of God? Did John mentioned face only or back or right jew of left hand? He said "No man hath seen God at any time;" I dont care it is back or feet but the God Himself. As a believer, of course I understand all those things, that bible will never contradict itself. But I need of course a solid explaination when somebody will ask the same question to me. God bless, Johnny |
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143 | Did Moses seen God face to face? | Ex 33:20 | jlpangilinan | 26966 | ||
My friend, Forget "face to face" please remain on the statement of John: John 1:18 Joh 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Mose claimed he seen God "face to face" Lets granted that moses not seen God "face to face" some of you claim this verse: x 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen. Granting that moses saw was the back of the lord still he has seen God. John statement is"No man has seen God at anytime" he dont mention if it is the back feet the jew or any other part but "God" Thanks for your patient, As believer I can easily understand that bible will never condradict itself, I just want a solid explaination when some other ask the same question to me. God bless, Johnny |
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144 | Did Moses seen God face to face? | Ex 33:20 | jlpangilinan | 27326 | ||
Dear Nolan, You mention "it was quite possibly the pre-incarnate Christ in the Old testament" do you mean moses is not sure of who he seen at the time? He do not know if it is the Angel of the Lord,or it was Jehovah (KJV)who gave name to moses that the Lord free them from bondage? Moses was a great prophet he should know of whom he is spoken to? He must sure of what he writen. Nolan, I am not making argument or whatsoever, as a believer I can easily understand that bible will never condradict itself, but if I could have more solid explaination regarding this I am more greatful.That is why I am asking questions, like concept of hell in Old testament, Concept of heaven or teaching regarding the destiny of soul at the time of moses, I think those are important points in the bible that need an explaination(if there is) God bless, Johnny |
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145 | Did Moses seen God face to face? | Ex 33:20 | jlpangilinan | 27477 | ||
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146 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93678 | ||
So what is your answer? did he given chance to repent or not? I will reiterate the question again. If God killed him right away how could he repent? As I said david committed sin such as adultery and murder, this sins is punisheable by death but david had his chance to repent how about Uzzah? did he given. Is God has a favoritism in terms of repentance. | ||||||
147 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93679 | ||
So where is justice about the death of Uzzah? if other characters in the Bible given a chance to repent and Uzzah didnt where is justice there. How can he repent if he killed right away. Eze 18:30 ¶ Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin. He commanded everyone to repent, how the person can repent if he killed after his trangressions. God bless, |
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148 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 93706 | ||
When reading your long answer I was surprise that you did not even quote a single book and chapter So I can follow your answer. I quote some of your answer: Quote: We know what God did to Uzzah was just. We cannot accuse God. We should understand that the man was acting in a presumptuous manner, knowing that it was not allowed for him to touch the ark. And yet he did. If that is true, then he had a rebellious attitude and he should have repented of that before. In other words, he had had the opprtunity to repent and he had not taken it. end of quote. You said Uzzah is not allowed to touch the ark, that is why when he touch it he died. When God said that if someone touching the ark will die he also said that to adam and eve: Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Why adam and eve given the chance to repent, why they dont die right away? you said God has no favoritism? Are you saying that commiting adultery is allowed to david he committed that sin and given the cahance to repent. I hope you are willing to answer my question but please when you answer put scriptures into it. You said that what God did to Uzzah was just, how he can repent if he killed right away. 1 John 1:9 stated that if we repent we were forgiven, what is the sense of this verses to uzzah that was not given chance to repent because he was killed right away. God bless, |
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149 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94107 | ||
I am surprise that you did not answer me directly but quote scriptures that not related for what I am asking for. In your last post you said that God has no favoritism that is why I am asking you did God give uzzah chance to repent? I am also asked you that the warning similar to uzzah was given to adam and eve, i did quote the passages concerning it. When adam and eve ate the fruits they dont die right away, that is why they are given the chance to repent. But what in uzzah case he cannot repent because he killed right away. You quoted this verse: For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy (Hebrews 10:26). end of quote. As I understand you quote this verse in order to explain that uzzah sin willfully even he knew the truth that he was going to die touching the ark. How about adam and eve, I am sure they know that God said to them they surely die if they eat the fruit? why they are given the chance and uzzah did not. God bless, |
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150 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94109 | ||
I did not say that good intension will superceed the laws of God but the chances that given to person to repent. If the person committed sin was killed immediately how could they repent? and uzzah based on what written was killed right away after he touch the ark. My querry is this, we said that God was just, that warning similar to uzzah was given to adam and eve. Ge 2:17 But of the tree Ue of the knowledge ted of good bwj and evil er, thou shalt not eat lka of it: for in the day Mwy that thou eatest lka thereof thou shalt surely twm die twm. But adam and eve live so long, they are given the chance to repent. God bless, |
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151 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94114 | ||
Can you show me the scriptures that adam and eve live but spiritually death. Quote"When we repent and trust in Christ, we are forgiven for all of our sins." end of quote. That is why I am asking the case of uzzah how could he repent if he killed right away after committing sins. But you said in your other post God cut the opportunity of uzzah to repent? ypu also said "God has no favoritism" if God cut the opportunity of uzzah and your not, do you call that equal opportunity. God bless, |
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152 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94118 | ||
Ge 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. Just for clarification God did not say that Adam would die "on that day" there is no word "on that day" found in Gen 3:3 God in Gen 3:3 is not talking about the spiritual death of adam because eventually adam died after a nine hundred fifty long years. Here are the meaning of the "DIE" that used in Gen 3:3 Hebrew word: 'muwth' phonetic spelling 'mooth' meaning "DIE" 1. to die, kill, have one executed (Qal) a. to die b. to die (as penalty), be put to death 1.to die, perish (of a nation) 2. to die prematurely (by neglect ofwise moral conduct) (Polel) to kill, put to death, dispatch (Hiphil) to kill, put to death (Hophal) to be killed, be put to death 1d to die prematurely God created adam not to die at least after disobedience, after disobedience God said this to adam: Ge 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. There is no such teaching about spiritual death in at least five books of moses dont tell you found one I did not read. There is no such teaching about soul of human will go to hell or heaven in at least five books of moses, dont tell me that adam has his teaching already. I would like to remend you that one of your last post you said "God has no favoritism" while in your last post you said: quote "I trust this clears it up and we do not need to go back to the story of Uzzah. But he was spiritually dead because of his sin in rebelling against God. He was aware of his sin, but he had not repented. In God's wisdom he cut off his opportunities to repent by taking his life." If God cut the opportunity of uzzah to repent and adam and yours or mine did not, how could you call that an "equal opportunity" God bless, |
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153 | Did Uzzah has given chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94417 | ||
Emmaus, Good Morning from the Philippines! Yes, God can answer that question, I tried if I can get some concrete ideas from the forum. I hope my question is a valid question. P.s. I was wondering, your note to me reach me not through my email I just visted the question and I found your note there. The same of the note of graceful, I just found out when I visited the thread, I dont know why. Some of the response reach me through my e-mail others not. God bless, |
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154 | Did Uzzah has given chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94420 | ||
So are you saying that the sense of 1 john 1:9 is not applicapble for everyone. Did God has a favoritism who to gave chance to repent and who did not. Mt 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. Jesus Christ said all manner of sin (including the one of Uzzah) are forgivable excluding the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. If all sin is forgivable then why God cut the opportunity of uzzah to repent. There are people in the Bible that done sin that punisheable by death but have a chance to repent. Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Adam eventually died but after a long time, they given chance to repent. God bless, |
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155 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94422 | ||
Gen 3:3 speaking of material death and not spiritual death, because they eventually die after a long time. I dont believed that God created man just to die at least after disobedience. When they disobey the sorrow and death comes: Ge 3:16 ¶ Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Ge 3:17 ¶ And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Ge 3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; Ge 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. In the first five books of moses there is no teaching about the soul; there is no teaching that if they disobey they will go to hell and if they obey God's law they will go to heaven. The isralites in the time of moses have no idea about the soul go to hell or go to heaven. The promises for them really is the "canaan" which where they are now. So dont tell me that there is spiritual teaching there. God bless, |
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156 | Given the chance to repent | Num 4:15 | jlpangilinan | 94548 | ||
It maybe, we started it with the case of uzzah. Is he given chance to repent. Quote"act 1. Adam and Eve hid from God because of their broken relationship with God. Gen. 3:8" It is your conclusions that they are death spiritually. I believed they dead materially that is the "de" mentioned in gen. 3:3 because eventually they die. God did not created man just to die, at least after disobedience. Because when they disobey this is only the time that God tell to adam that he came from dust and to the dust he will go back. Quote ". Uzzah was killed immediately before he had the chance to repent due to a law of God that was in place well before he touched the Ark. II Sam. 6:7 and Num. 4:15. end of quote. It is my believed too that uzzah did not given the chance like others. Solomon done worshiping other god's but God appeared to him twice a very clear example of giving him chance to repent. When the israelites worship the golden calf three thousand of them put to death but solomon did not, what kind of equal law is that. Quote Fact 3. You still have not answered my original question. Do you think that good intentions should supercede the laws of God?? II Sam. 6:6 end of quote. I believed I answered that already in my previous post, good intensions will not supercedes the laws of God, my argument is why He did not given chance to repent like what the others had. Hell and heaven is very important thing to be taught at the time and I am sure if that given that time moses will write it. Every single law that given to moses was wrote and specificall taught do you there are more important than everyone will know that if they disobyed they will go to hell and heaven if they obeyed. This is a very important things my fried. Why is not written because it is not taught during that time. Moses wrote a simple like washing hands after you touch a dead animals, and not taught hell or heaven which is more important. God bless, |
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157 | Integrity | Num 12:7 | jlpangilinan | 132022 | ||
How about mary and apostle paul, apostle paul are the most hardworking apostle of all times, because of him the Christianity possibly reach the place its such as yours and mine, did you consider that. Apostle paul exchange his riches and education to burden, he evangelize the word of God as no one can do. He has a good life and respected and highly educated, but he rejected that enable to served Christ. I am not degrading what moses did to his people, moses died and god buried him, paul was put behind bars because of his testimony of Christ, he was tutured, beheaded which was a very painful death. Paul This first imprisonment came at length to a close, Paul having been acquitted, probably because no witnesses appeared against him. Once more he set out on his missionary labours, probably visiting western and eastern Europe and Asia Minor. During this period of freedom he wrote his First Epistle to Timothy and his Epistle to Titus. The year of his release was signalized by the burning of Rome, which Nero saw fit to attribute to the Christians. A fierce persecution now broke out against the Christians. Paul was siezed, and once more conveyed to Rome a prisoner. During this imprisonment he probably wrote the Second Epistle to Timothy, the last he ever wrote. "There can be little doubt that he appered again at Nero's bar, and this time the charge did not break down. In all history there is not a more startling illustration of the irony of human life than this scene of Paul at the bar of Nero. On the judgment-seat, clad in the imperial purple, sat a man who, in a bad world, had attained the eminence of being the very worst and meanest being in it, a man stained with every crime, a man whose whole being was so steeped in every nameable and unnameable vice, that body and soul of him were, as some one said at the time, nothing but a compound of mud and blood; and in the prisoner's dock stood the best man the world possessed, his hair whitened with labours for the good of men and the glory of God. The trial ended: Paul was condemned, and delivered over to the executioner. He was led out of the city, with a crowd of the lowest rabble at his heels. The fatal spot was reached; he knelt beside the block; the headsman's axe gleamed in the sun and fell; and the head of the apostle of the world rolled down in the dust" (probably A.D. 66), four years before the fall of Jerusalem. |
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158 | Is 10 percent mandatory | Num 18:26 | jlpangilinan | 62399 | ||
You are right tithes is for God, under the law of moses the people of Israel commanded to give thier tithes to levites. But in the time of Christ, He never require anyone to give thier tithes. The apostle also not required thier folowers to give tithes to them. Giving that taught in the new testament goes: 2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. according to purposes of the heart not 10 percent 20 percent but purposes of the heart. When the law given to israel it is sepcific to them and not for a Christian, when God give the ten commandments it is specific to them: De 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. The lord made the covenant"with them not including thier father but "who are all of us here alive" we are not included them, not even thier fathers. tithe is included in the law of moses, and it cannot justify us: Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Why we have to required people to do things that cannot justify us? Or you will say that tithe is not included in the law of moses? God bless, Johnny |
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159 | Is 10 percent mandatory | Num 18:26 | jlpangilinan | 62400 | ||
You are right tithes is for God, under the law of moses the people of Israel commanded to give thier tithes to levites. But in the time of Christ, He never require anyone to give thier tithes. The apostle also not required thier folowers to give tithes to them. Giving that taught in the new testament goes: 2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. according to purposes of the heart not 10 percent 20 percent but purposes of the heart. When the law given to israel it is sepcific to them and not for a Christian, when God give the ten commandments it is specific to them: De 5:3 The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. The lord made the covenant"with them not including thier father but "who are all of us here alive" we are not included them, not even thier fathers. tithe is included in the law of moses, and it cannot justify us: Ac 13:39 And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. Why we have to required people to do things that cannot justify us? Or you will say that tithe is not included in the law of moses? God bless, Johnny |
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160 | Is 10 percent mandatory | Num 18:26 | jlpangilinan | 62498 | ||
You said "One thing Abraham tithed long before the law Gen 14:20. Abraham did it to show honor. Can you think of any better way to put our faith to work than by honoring God with our money? Not because we have too but because we can. When you willingly give something that is so essential to our daily existance your showing your dependance in not on the gift but on the receiver of the honor." It is abraham give the tenth of all no one required him but he give, it is different for what happening today, the pastors required thier memners to give the tithe instead of love offering. Where did abraham his tithe anyway? Ge 14:16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people. Ge 14:17 ¶ And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale. Ge 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all. He slaughter Kings and took thier goods and give tithes of all. Do you think Christ will allow that kind of action? Do you think Christ will happy if I am going to kill somebody and took thier goods and give tithes of all? Please answer. To convice me that tithe ten percent is requirements for Christians today please show me any single teaching of Christ that He required anyone to give tithes to Him. He is God He is the most authority to receive tithes. Authority of receiving tithes are given to levi: eb 7:5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. Are sons of levi that given the authority to receive tithes? (if you are jew I am sorry you have the authority under the law) God bless, Johnny |
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