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121 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78240 | ||
Good point. Works are not a bad word. It only becomes bad when someone is doing them with the Pharisaical attitude in mind, 'what a good boy am I.' Those who are on the other side of this debate will reply that the good 'works' you are describing are done by God. It sounds a little strange when the Bible tells us to 'WORK OUT YOUR SALVATION WITH FEAR AND TREMBLING.' They always quote the next verse but their interpretation of it negates this verse. Nice hearing from you. God bless, Disciplerami |
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122 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78206 | ||
Hi Steve, Many people are confused. God is not the author of confusion, but it still happens. I don't know when or if you were saved. If you say you are saved, fine. But God is the ultimate judge. You had better check with Him. I do know that the Holy Spirit convicted 3,000 to be baptized on Pentecost for the remission of sins. I hoping the best for you, Disciplerami |
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123 | Cornelius - Saved in Acts 10:45 or not? | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78205 | ||
Yes, Rubbish. But God loved his rubbish as it arose before Him as a memorial. | ||||||
124 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78204 | ||
I mean exactly what you have said. I agree with what you have said here and I thank you for standing up for the truth. May God bless you, Disciplerami |
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125 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78203 | ||
Dear Sniper, CDBJ has warned you not to be fooled by James when all you did was QUOTE it. You offered no commentary, but only allowed the inspired writer to speak. Also, may I add to something you posted? This passage: "Rom 10:16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?" Literally says, "who has OBEYED the GOSPEL...?" Very good post. I agree with you and since you only quote Scripture, God is in agreement with us. Why would anyone warn you of being fooled by James when you were quoting James? Amazing testimony! I choose to obey the Gospel. Jesus says if you love Him you will obey His commands. Well, I obey His commands so I must love Him. And He knows it and He loves Me too. They can set up their straw men all day long and they can knock them down, but they can't touch you when you only speak the truth. Disciplerami God bless you, Disciplerami |
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126 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78202 | ||
Straw man alert: "A man isn’t a new creature because of his works, he is a new creature because of his position in Christ." - CDBJ No one has said different. :) Disciplerami |
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127 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78201 | ||
I have to agree with you. I pray that He knows me. | ||||||
128 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78200 | ||
The definition of arrogance: "Since God resist arrogance they probably never will come to the knowledge of the truth because they are still depending on their doing something no matter how much they use the name of Jesus and falsely claim they are trusting in him." Tim, Does reading CDBJ affirmation make you feel better? CDBJ, you err by blaming God for such things: "Until the Father reveals truth to them we are like beating our heads on a brick wall." Do you really mean to suggest that a loving God would willfully withhold the saving truth from someone? CDBJ says that salvation is 100 percent a work of God. But he then contradicts himself by saying man's part: "you must believe, you must exercise faith in Christ for salvation." By the sound of this, I think CDBJ has to take some of the credit for his salvation! Don't you? He obviously is not a purist of the second paradigm. CDBJ has left out the third and correct pardigm: Grace through obedient faith (Romans 1:5:16:26; 1 Thess 1:3). Good day, Disciplerami |
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129 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78199 | ||
Tim, You keep trying but you aren't making your case. When comparing 1 Corinthians 16:1,2, you carefully show that the verbs and pronouns are all singular, but why do you fail to mention the genetive plural pronoun, humon? Because you don't fail to mention that the same identical genetive plural pronoun exist in Acts 2:38. You carefully point it out in Acts 2:38, but you omit it from the list of verbs and pronouns in 1 Corinthians 16:2. Why is that? Does it not help your case? Next, you have stated an error in saying: "If Acts 2:38 followed the pattern of Acts 2:3, all of the above plural verbs and pronouns would have been singular!" Acts 2:3 has plural pronoun (autois) following the singular verb and HEKASTOS (each one). Perhaps you just missed that one. So all of the pronouns in Acts 2:38 DON'T have to be singular! to follow the construction of Acts 2:3. Secondly, the plural pronoun in Acts 2:38 in "the sins of YE" matches the plural pronoun in the phrase "be baptized each one of YE". The inspired writer makes the connection between baptism and forgiveness and every Bible translation accurately renders it so. You have made it very clear that Acts 2:38 should be understood to say "repent for the remission of sins" while disassociating baptism from the process. If you say that is the accurate grammatical rendering, then why isn't their one verse to back you up? Repentance and Baptism are necessary for receiving the promises stated at the end of the verse. Disciplerami |
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130 | Whose works are required for faith? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78196 | ||
Greetings, John 6:27 "Do not work for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give to you, for on Him the Father, God, has set His seal." John 6:28 Therefore they said to Him, "What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?" John 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent." Good day, Disciplerami |
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131 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78092 | ||
The comparison between Acts 2:38 and 1 Corinthians 16:1,2: Acts 2:38 1 Cor 16:1,2 Repent ye (plural) "do you also" (plural) each one (singular) each one (singular) of you (humon,plural) of you (humon, plural) be baptized (3rd,single) lay aside (3rd,singular) Same construction in both. The same ones being told to 'do ye also' and individually be told to 'lay aside'. That is the entire point being made by Thayer when hekastos (each, every one) is used. It relates back to the plural used in the appositional phrase. You write: and it rested (singular) upon each (singular) of them." The only plural in this clause is the pronoun 'of them'. Exactly, just as in the subsentence of Acts 2:38, the only plural in it is the pronoun humon. Just as in Acts 2:3, The verb "sit/be baptized" and noun "each/each" are singular: but the pronouns in both are plural (humon). I have to run. Have a good day. Disciplerami |
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132 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78090 | ||
Dear Tim, If I show you my faith by my works (baptism), how is that incongruous to salvation by faith? It's not! Judaizers had no faith but in themselves. Isn't that the point in Matthew 6 as they prayed and gave with self-righteousness? Of course it is. Carnal men are impressed by religious piety exercised by Pharisees. But what man is impressed by my being baptized? Baptism is a work of faith, same as belief, confession, and repentance. I believe that faith must be demonstrated in baptism: not faith and be baptized. Faith is at work in the baptism, that is, according to Paul in Colossians 2:12. I didn't say it, Paul did. "buried with Christ in baptism, in which you were also raised by your faith in the working of God..." It is a straw man to suggest that my position is akin to Pharisees and circumcision. I hope you understand my point. Good day. |
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133 | Cornelius - Saved in Acts 10:45 or not? | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78082 | ||
Dear Tim, Most people on this forum suggest that salvation precedes any work and that works only follow. However, Cornelius was praying and doing good deeds before Acts 10:45. My point, as you must know, was that salvation couldn't have come before Peter started preaching the word of God (unless we want to start contradicting the inspired writer). But he definitely showed he was spiritually discerning before his salvation. I was pointing this to those like Joe! who say spiritually dead means you can't spiritually discern. He's wrong because we have Cornelius example. About the last line in my previous post. Searcher56 just got through telling me "I am wrong in my thought." He attacked a made up argument -- I know of no one to suggest it -- that an unbeliever can praise God. Imagining the conversation: UNBELIEVER: "Hey God, I don't even believe in you, couldn't even tell you why I'm talking to you, but you are awesome and mighty and true!" I don't think anyone has suggested such a scenario. So for Searcher to imply that I have, then tell me that I'm wrong in my thinking, is silly and wrong. I don't mean to be unloving, but he needs to get it right. By the way, does Searcher56 have the power to remove a thread from the main page? Good day, Disciplerami |
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134 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78081 | ||
Dear Tim, You misrepresent and cheat the thief of his full response to Christ. He rebuked another. He uttered words of faith. It is not fair or right for you to limit his response to "simply believing" that you might strengthen your argument. The thief did all that was required on that side of the cross. On this side of the cross, we are commanded to repent and be baptized. I'm not about to tell someone all he has to do it believe 'like the thief on the cross.' If someone asks, I don't recommend that you give the advice "do what the thief did." Tell them what Peter said, "Repent and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Chrsit for the remission of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." I'm not a Judaizer. Straw man argument again. I'll go after anyone who trust in baptism to save. A Judaizer equaled circumcision to salvation; and being a descendant of Abraham with salvation. That is false. So don't bring that straw man up. I'm no Judaizer. It's sad that the only way you can make your argument is by implying I am. There is a vast difference between "baptism is equal to salvation" and saying, "baptism is the place where God saves." Vast difference. Romans 4, 'credited' to Abraham? That's right, but only when he had a working faith. It is amazing that you can't harmonize Romans 4 and James 2. Abraham DID God's will, first by leaving his home. He SHOWED himself to be a person of faith. But Abraham did not trust that his works were what justified; he understood it was of God. God saw His faith. It is just plain false to suggest that Abraham's faith, credited as righteous, was a NON-WORKING faith. Wrong. Good day Tim, Disciplerami |
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135 | Paul is commanded to wash away sins? | Acts 22:16 | disciplerami | 78077 | ||
Dear Joe, I have not said that baptism is a literal death, burial and resurrection: which if you follow your line of questioning implies. But God decided that at baptism we are united with Christ, buried with Christ (Romans 6:3-5; Colossians 2:12). That's not my opinion, that's what Paul says. The emblems of the Lord's Supper are symbols of something else. They are not the literal body and blood of Christ. But their is a difference between the Lord's Supper and the Baptism. Baptism is done only once and it is done for a specified reason: to wash away sins. The Lord's Supper is a memorial, a proclamation of the Lord's death until He returns. There is not specified 'forgiveness' attached to partaking of it (John 6, in my opinion isn't talking about the Lord's Supper). The purpose of the two are different. Good day Joe, Disciplerami |
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136 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78075 | ||
Dear Tim, You statement "Most translations, and rightfully so, try to be as literal as possible" is not addressing the issue. Your job is to show me any translation that depicts the passage as you render it. You can't do it: literal or non-literal translation. Second, the 'baptism clause' in its completeness does not end with '...', but includes 'for the remission of sins.' I asked about the entire verse, is it translated correctly? Repentance is not a work? Really? To 'turn from sin' is not a work. If you want to take that path, then let me do so as well and say that 'baptism is not a work' and salvation follows. Since no one here has suggested that anything is done to "earn salvation", I think it shows a personal bias and is unfair to the other person. Neither I, nor anyone else on this forum, has ever suggested that repentance or baptism is about 'earning salvation', so why even bring it up? We will both attack that straw man. :) "Acceptance of a gift is not a work". Call if what you want, but it's what you must do. "After we RECEIVE" Here's one of my problems with such arguments. The Bible doesn't just tell us to 'receive' Christ, it tells us HOW to receive Christ. You and others can talk about the necessity of ACCEPTING CHRIST into your hearts, but you don't tell me how that is done. Excuse me, but you do. When pressed for an answer, we are told to pray and ask Jesus into our hearts. Give me Scripture and then tell me that the necessity to pray isn't a work. Put your hand on the radio or computer monitor and pray with me... I understand your desire to credit God completely for your salvation; I have the same desire. My forgiveness is not by works of righteousness, but by faith in Christ. But without the works, there is NO FAITH. Good day to you, Disciplerami |
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137 | Paul is commanded to wash away sins? | Acts 22:16 | disciplerami | 78072 | ||
I agree and thank you for the post. God bless, Disciplerami |
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138 | Does God hear the prayers of nonbeliever | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78069 | ||
Yes there is. Cornelius believed and wouldn't be saved until Peter preached to him (Acts 11:14). And John 3:16 says that the person who believe SHOULD not perish; it does not say SHALL not perish (there is a difference). John 3:36 qualifies (as does Heb 3:18,19) the statement to show that an obedient belief is required. John 12:42 shows that many believed but were unwilling to confess for fear of being put out of the synogogue. These people believe but are not saved. What is ridiculous is that plain Bible is ignored. Does God hear the prayers of unsaved people? If their heart is seeking the truth, the answer is 'yes.' Good day. |
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139 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78064 | ||
Dear Tim, I don't think I'm missing the point, instead it may be you who are. The point is that the appositional phrase (parenthetical phrase, as you call it), refers to the same group mentioned in the previous or following phrase (in our case, the previous one). In Acts 2:38, you can't just 'take out' the command to be baptized (and still have the same meaning), because being baptized isn't the same thing as repenting. "Take out this parenthetical statement and the verse is perfectly clear." Yes, in Acts 2:8 the appositional phrase indicates that each individual was hearing. This is supremely important to our Acts 2:38 passage that commands two things: repentance and baptism. Those who were being commanded to repent were also (same PLURAL number of people, even with the singular verb for baptism) being commanded to be baptized. The conjunction KAI ties the two phrases together and forms the required action (of faith, mind you)for receiving forgiveness. You point out that in Acts 2:8 that there are no singular verbs connected to "each", but that doesn't matter. There is a singular verb connected in verse 3 of the same chapter! So your point is moot. 1 Corinthians 16:1,2 is another example. In verse 1, the church is commanded 'do ye also' (2 person plural), followed by 'let each of you [hekastos] 'lay aside' [titheito, 3rd singular). Point? The same plural number commanded to do ye also, are individually commanded to 'lay aside' (singular verb). In Acts 2:38, the argument that you have advanced is that the change in person breaks the connection (conjunction AND) between repentance and baptism: 'repent for the forgiveness of sins and be baptized later for a reason disassociated from salvation.' But this is not allowed. In 1 Cor 16:1,2 you can't disassociate 'each one of you lay aside' from the first plural command to 'do ye also'. Baptism's water has no saving power, but it is the place where God's grace saves. We've already concluded the causal relationship between repentance and forgiveness; it's not much of a leap to command someone to get in the water and 'wash away thy sins.' Have a good day. By the way, how was the group study? I had one too with some of the youth. My dining room table was lined with teens studying the Bible. Disciplerami |
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140 | Faith plus Baptism or Faith alone? | Matt 7:13 | disciplerami | 78060 | ||
Hi Tim, How I wish there wasn't this difference between us. I believe that you have not yet grasped what I or the Bible are saying about the necessity of works. It's not that works 'earn' you anything: you can never do enough works to attain the state of righteousness. BUT works are 'in keeping' with Biblical, saving faith. John had people coming to him for baptism: immersion for the remission of sins. But he refused to baptized the 'brood of vipers'. "Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?" He then said, "bring forth fruits in keeping with repentance." Hence, a working repentance, not just being sorry for past sins, was required before he would baptize them. Many people started asking what they needed to do and he told them. But Herod, in contrast, threw John into prison. Herod did not repent by putting away the unlaw marriage. I venture to say that none on this forum - save the infant baptizers - believe that baptism, in and of itself, can save. But the Bible clearly shows that Baptism is the place where God's grace saves. That is why there was such urgency to baptize in the early church (and still is today by those like myself). I'm glad that you teach the necessity of baptism. But baptism is commanded for a specific purpose and should be received with that purpose in mind. Thanks, Disciplerami |
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