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141 | Paul is commanded to wash away sins? | Acts 22:16 | disciplerami | 78015 | ||
Was Paul saved at the point of 'faith alone' or when 'calling on his name?' Believing must come first and calling on His name must follow. Are we saved when we believe or when we call, or as one person suggest, when we repent (as he argues a causal relationship between 'repentance' and 'remission of sins' in Acts 2:38)? I'm searching for answers. Thanks and good day, Disciplerami |
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142 | Paul is commanded to wash away sins? | Acts 22:16 | disciplerami | 78011 | ||
Why is the first imperative, "be baptized," followed by a second, "wash away your sins," if baptism hasn't a thing to do with the removal of sins? Why does Saul still need to have his sins washed away? Is baptism connected to washing away of sins? Many who post on this forum say they are connected symbolically: but they only allow that baptism is done later to symbolize an earlier spiritual cleansing. But I wonder if they can explain why Ananias commands that Saul both, "be baptized" and "wash away thy sins"? Help me to understand this verse. |
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143 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78010 | ||
That's a good argument if you believe in foxhole religion. But what if God says, "what about the million other times in your life that you had a chance to obey and didn't? I never knew you." What about the thief on the cross? Jesus didn't command baptism until after the resurrection. What significance has the thief on Cross to our discussion? Abraham and Moses were baptized either, but I don't know what bearing that has on this discussion. Help me out. Thank you for your thoughts. Disciplerami |
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144 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78009 | ||
Acts 2:8 grammar is like grammar in Acts 2:38. "And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?" In the Greek, "hear" is plural, while "each" [hekastos) is singular but it is used with "our own" which is plural. Tim (nice guy) Moran argues that this can't happen in the Greek, but Luke says it can. Luke does the same thing with Acts 2:38: Repent (plural) and each (singular) be baptized for the forgiveness (plural) of sins. Disciplerami |
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145 | Does God hear the prayers of nonbeliever | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 78008 | ||
To answer your question "what person in his/her right mind would presume to boldly approach the throne of grace clothed in their his/her own unrighteousness?" I would say an ignorant person, a humble and broken person, and sinful person. What, do only 'righteous' people call on God? The original question is 'does God hear the prayers of nonbelievers?' Ridiculous question! The right question is 'does God hear the prayers of unsaved people?' People like Cornelius? Answer: yes. Unsaved, but humbly seeking His will. Good day, Disciplerami |
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146 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 78007 | ||
Dear Tim, It's good to hear from you again. Let me ask a few questions of you: First, is Acts 2:38 translated accurately by, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins... (KJV) and by "Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit"? (NASB); and Second, Doesn't your argument demand that people have an understanding of the Greek in order to be saved? (because no English translations is translated as you say the Greek requires)? Please spare us any suggestions that there is no way of showing it because you quite ably depict your position in the English. Third, do you argue that salvation is by "faith only" or by "faith plus repentance"? You believe in the causal relationship between repentance and remission of sins? But You say in earlier posts, 6784, "Salvation is only through faith and grace, not works." 8755, "the vast majority of Scriptures make it abundantly clear that salvation is through faith alone" 8880, "Furthermore, the concept itself goes against everything Scripture says about salvation being through faith alone!" 19398, "Paul's agrument in Galatians is that all aspects of the Christian life are achieved through faith only," I curious to know which you believe: "faith alone" or "faith plus repentance"? It's interesting to note that the Scriptures refers to "faith alone" one time, and that, to say we are NOT justified by faith alone (James 2). But you repeat "faith only" many times. I'm curious to know what you believe. Have you changed your mind now that you argue a causal relationship between 'repent' and 'remission of sins'? To be consistent, you must admit that the Jews who believed were not yet saved since forgiveness follows repentance. Up until now you have insisted that baptism is not associated with remission of sins. Now will you not change course and disassociate repentance from forgiveness of sins? I hope not. If you believe that repentance precedes salvation, then you have more in common with me than do most who post on these pages :) Wishing you a Good day, Disciplerami |
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147 | Repent and Baptism for same number? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 77968 | ||
Are the people being told to be baptized in Acts 2:38 the same number, no more or less, than those being told to repent? Are the same people that the Holy Spirit fell on in Acts 2:3 the same number, no more or less, as those whom it appeared to? |
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148 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 77966 | ||
Greetings Tim, I'm not misunderstanding Thayer's point. The appositional phrase "be baptized each one of ye" relates to the same people as those who were commanded "repent ye." That's what an appositional phrase does. I understand his point all too well. Thayer clearly shows, contrary to what you've been asserting for two years, that HEKASTOS (each one) is used alongside the PLURAL nouns, pronouns, and verbs. As for your statement that "Thayer is not saying that a singular verb (I assume you mean 'be baptized') can take a plural pronoun as its antecendent.' No one said this. The plural pronoun is not antecedent, it follows the singular verb: baptistheito hekastos HUMON. The plural pronoun follows, no one has said it is antecedent. The antecedent of the plural pronoun is the singular verb. The singular verb is followed by HEKASTOS, emphasizing the entire YE. Acts 2:3 is a verse that follows the same pattern. The appositional phrase "it sat upon each of one them" has the singular verb, and HEKASTOS, and the plural pronoun (just as we see in Acts 2:38). This appositional phrase of Acts 2:3 corresponds to "there appeared unto them cloven tongues" having a verb 3rd person plural and plural pronoun. Same pattern as we find in Acts 2:38. The Greek is fine and the translation depicts exactly what it says in the Greek. MAIN POINT: The same group that 'tongues' appeared to are the same ones 'it lit' upon. And in 2:38, the same ones being commanded to repent and the same ones being commanded to be baptized. To others who are interested, read post 77890 and 77929 |
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149 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 77959 | ||
DalPrad, I see this thread has been 'temporarily restricted' from appearing on the homepage. Do you know why? I'm curious why this would be done. Disciplerami |
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150 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 77952 | ||
Hide the Thread? Why? Someone help me to understand why this thread has been hidden from the main forum page? The original question seems like a legitimate one, one that should be debated. Good day. |
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151 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 77953 | ||
Hide the Thread? Why? Someone help me to understand why this thread has been hidden from the main forum page? The original question seems like a legitimate one, one that should be debated. Good day. |
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152 | Did Peter tell the truth? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 77937 | ||
Search for ID 77890 and 77929 for response the argument that singular 'be baptized' is not connected to 'forgiveness' (singular) of the sins (plural) of Ye (plural). | ||||||
153 | Faith plus Baptism or Faith alone? | Matt 7:13 | disciplerami | 77936 | ||
Search for ID 77890 and 77929 for response the argument that singular 'be baptized' is not connected to 'forgiveness' (singular) of the sins (plural) of Ye (plural). | ||||||
154 | Do I have to be Baptized to be saved? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77935 | ||
Dear Tim, Nice Try yourself. What you state is the problem is NOT a problem. Thayer says so. Where you write: "The problem with Acts 2:38 is not that 'each of you' is used. The problem is that when 'each' is used the subject of the clause is now singular and all of the verbs and pronouns associated with that clause will also be singular." No, "all of the verbs and pronouns associated with that clause will" NOT also be singular. As Thayer says, "when it [HEKASTOS] denotes individually, every one of many, [it] is often added appositively to nouns and PRONOUNS and VERBS IN THE PLURAL NUMBER." What you claim to be a requirement is not such thing. You write: "The problem is that if the last clause were meant to be a result of obedience to the command to 'be baptized' then the phrase would have had to say, 'for the remission of your (singular) sins'." Again, that isn't what Thayer says. He shows that the HEKASTOS is used with PLURAL nouns, pronouns, and verbs. Your assertion that "your sins" be singular is in error. There is nothing ungrammatical about stating the text exactly as it is translated every time. Acts 2:38 Repent YE, and be [he/she/it] baptized every one of YE, in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission [plural] of the sins of YE, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." The verb 'be baptized' is singular, matching HEKASTOS, which is used apositively with plural verbs and pronouns. Just as Thayer said it would. There are different ways HEKASTOS is used. Your examples don't apply to the present case since the word is NOT being used appositively with plural verbs and pronouns. In the examples you cite, yes, the verbs are in the singular. BUT YOU IGNORE THE EXPERT THAYER. He says "when it denotes individually, every one of many", as in "repent ye", "it is used appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs IN THE PLURAL." The correct form is just as it is translated. The same number that are being commanded to repent and being commanded to be baptized. It says that 3,000 were baptized on that day--which is a mystery in itself for those who deny the purpose of baptism--and it therefore follows that 3,000 repented. The grammar is correct in Acts 2:3 and John 6:7 and the grammar is correct in Acts 2:38. The same rule applies. For John 6:7 you admit, "that 'each' (singular) may take (singular) a bite." This is identical to what is said in Acts 2:38: "be baptized" (singular) each one (singular)", then, as Thayer states, it is used alongside PLURAL pronouns and verbs. You have no case for insisting what Thayer says isn't necessary. Hoping you have a good day, Disciplerami |
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155 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 77929 | ||
Dear Tim, Nice try yourself. What you state is the problem is NOT a problem. Thayer says so. Where you write: "The problem with Acts 2:38 is not that 'each of you' is used. The problem is that when 'each' is used the subject of the clause is now singular and all of the verbs and pronouns associated with that clause will also be singular." No, "all of the verbs and pronouns associated with that clause will" NOT also be singular. As Thayer says, "when it [HEKASTOS] denotes individually, every one of many, [it] is often added appositively to nouns and PRONOUNS and VERBS IN THE PLURAL NUMBER." What you claim to be a requirement is not such thing. You write: "The problem is that if the last clause were meant to be a result of obedience to the command to 'be baptized' then the phrase would have had to say, 'for the remission of your (singular) sins'." Again, that isn't what Thayer says. He shows that the HEKASTOS is used with PLURAL nouns, pronouns, and verbs. Your assertion that "your sins" be singular is in error. There is nothing ungrammatical about stating the text exactly as it is translated every time. Acts 2:38 Repent YE, and be [he/she/it] baptized every one of YE, in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission [plural] of the sins of YE, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." The verb 'be baptized' is singular, matching HEKASTOS, which is used apositively with plural verbs and pronouns. Just as Thayer said it would. There are different ways HEKASTOS is used. Your examples don't apply to the present case since the word is NOT being used appositively with plural verbs and pronouns. In the examples you cite, yes, the verbs are in the singular. BUT YOU IGNORE THE EXPERT THAYER. He says "when it denotes individually, every one of many", as in "repent ye", "it is used appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs IN THE PLURAL." The correct form is just as it is translated. The same number that are being commanded to repent and being commanded to be baptized. It says that 3,000 were baptized on that day--which is a mystery in itself for those who deny the purpose of baptism--and it therefore follows that 3,000 repented. The grammar is correct in Acts 2:3 and John 6:7 and the grammar is correct in Acts 2:38. The same rule applies. For John 6:7 you admit, "that 'each' (singular) may take (singular) a bite." This is identical to what is said in Acts 2:38: "be baptized" (singular) each one (singular)", then, as Thayer states, it is used alongside PLURAL pronouns and verbs. You have no case for insisting what Thayer says isn't necessary. Nice try. Good day, Disciplerami |
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156 | Do I have to be Baptized to be saved? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77895 | ||
Acts 2:38 says you do. Acts 2:38 Grammar Corrected It has been stated several times on this forum that the Greek construction found in Acts 2:38 wrongly leaves the impression that 'repentance' and 'baptism' are necessary for salvation. ________ Morant61 has said, "Greek pronouns and verbs must match in both person and number. While it sounds nice to say that Peter is simply going from the group to the individual, doing so seperates the command to 'be baptized' from the promise of 'forgiveness of sins'. One cannot say in Greek, "Be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins!" "Ignore the rest of the sentence for the moment. The above sentence in Greek would be impossible. The only imperative that can go with the promise of forgiveness of sins in the plural 'repent'." ________ Acts 2:38 reads: Repent ye (2nd person, plural) and be baptized (3rd singular) each one (HEKASTOS, see Thayer's notes) of ye (plural pronoun).... unto the remission of sins of ye (plural pronoun)... Morant61 says it is not proper to say, "be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins." Thayer disagrees and offers several places where this is done when HEKASTOS (each, every) is used. "HEKASTOS, when it denotes individuality, every one of many, is often added appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs in the plural number: Jn16:32; Acts 2:8; Lk2:3; Acts3:26; 1Pt4:10; Rev5:8; Rev20:13. (Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon, 1889, p.192) Here is a perfect example in Acts 2:3, "and appeared (3rd PLURAL) to them (autois, dative PLURAL) tongues as of fire distributing themselves (nominative PLURAL) and they rested (literal, 'it rested' 3rd SINGULAR) on each one (HEKASTOS, each, every) of them (genetive PLURAL). The "them/autois" of "there appeared unto THEM" in this Greek text is PLURAL. "EACH" is from the same word translated "EVERY ONE" in Acts 2:38. Did the tongues of fire sit on exactly the same ones to whom the fiery tongues appeared? The obvious answer is, 'yes!' In Acts 2:38, the group that is commanded to 'repent ye' is not more or less than the ones who are commanded to 'be baptized individually every one of ye (plural)...for the forgiveness of the sins of ye. Other examples of this construction are seen in John 6:7; Lk 4:40 "We ask: "How many more repented than were baptized?" "Every one of you" is added appositively to "Repent ye" and they both refer to the same ones."1 Good day, Disciplerami 1www_bearvalleycofc_orgZarticlesZbaptismEssential_html _ is for a dot Z is for a forward slash |
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157 | Isn't Baptism neccessary for salvation?? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77893 | ||
Acts 2:38 Grammar Corrected It has been stated several times on this forum that the Greek construction found in Acts 2:38 wrongly leaves the impression that 'repentance' and 'baptism' are necessary for salvation. ________ Morant61 has said, "Greek pronouns and verbs must match in both person and number. While it sounds nice to say that Peter is simply going from the group to the individual, doing so seperates the command to 'be baptized' from the promise of 'forgiveness of sins'. One cannot say in Greek, "Be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins!" "Ignore the rest of the sentence for the moment. The above sentence in Greek would be impossible. The only imperative that can go with the promise of forgiveness of sins in the plural 'repent'." ________ Acts 2:38 reads: Repent ye (2nd person, plural) and be baptized (3rd singular) each one (HEKASTOS, see Thayer's notes) of ye (plural pronoun).... unto the remission of sins of ye (plural pronoun)... Morant61 says it is not proper to say, "be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins." Thayer disagrees and offers several places where this is done when HEKASTOS (each, every) is used. "HEKASTOS, when it denotes individuality, every one of many, is often added appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs in the plural number: Jn16:32; Acts 2:8; Lk2:3; Acts3:26; 1Pt4:10; Rev5:8; Rev20:13. (Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon, 1889, p.192) This shows that the number who are commanded to repent are not more or less than those individually commanded to be baptized. A perfect example is Acts 2:3, "and appeared (3rd PLURAL) to them (autois, dative PLURAL) tongues as of fire distributing themselves (nominative PLURAL) and they rested (3rd SINGULAR, 'it rested') on each one (HEKASTOS, each, every) of them (genetive PLURAL). The "them/autois" of "there appeared unto THEM" in this Greek text is PLURAL. "EACH" is from the same word translated "EVERY ONE" in Acts 2:38. Did the tongues of fire sit on exactly the same ones to whom the fiery tongues appeared? The obvious answer is, 'yes!' In Acts 2:38, the group that is commanded to 'repent ye' is not more or less than the ones who are commanded to 'be baptized individually every one of ye (plural)...for the forgiveness of the sins of ye. Other examples of this construction are seen in John 6:7; Lk 4:40 "We ask: "How many more repented than were baptized?" "Every one of you" is added appositively to "Repent ye" and they both refer to the same ones."1 Good day, Disciplerami 1www_bearvalleycofc_orgZarticlesZbaptismEssential_html _ is for a dot Z is for a forward slash |
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158 | Isn't Baptism neccessary for salvation?? | Rom 10:9 | disciplerami | 77891 | ||
Acts 2:38 Grammar Corrected It has been stated several times on this forum that the Greek construction found in Acts 2:38 wrongly leaves the impression that 'repentance' and 'baptism' are necessary for salvation. ________ Morant61 has said, "Greek pronouns and verbs must match in both person and number. While it sounds nice to say that Peter is simply going from the group to the individual, doing so seperates the command to 'be baptized' from the promise of 'forgiveness of sins'. One cannot say in Greek, "Be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins!" "Ignore the rest of the sentence for the moment. The above sentence in Greek would be impossible. The only imperative that can go with the promise of forgiveness of sins in the plural 'repent'." ________ Acts 2:38 reads: Repent ye (2nd person, plural) and be baptized (3rd singular) each one (HEKASTOS, see Thayer's notes) of ye (plural pronoun).... unto the remission of sins of ye (plural pronoun)... Morant61 says it is not proper to say, "be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins." Thayer disagrees and offers several places where this is done when HEKASTOS (each, every) is used. "HEKASTOS, when it denotes individuality, every one of many, is often added appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs in the plural number: Jn16:32; Acts 2:8; Lk2:3; Acts3:26; 1Pt4:10; Rev5:8; Rev20:13. (Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon, 1889, p.192) Here is a perfect example in Acts 2:3, "and appeared (3rd PLURAL) to them (autois, dative PLURAL) tongues as of fire distributing themselves (nominative PLURAL) and they rested (literal, 'it rested' 3rd SINGULAR) on each one (HEKASTOS, each, every) of them (genetive PLURAL). The "them/autois" of "there appeared unto THEM" in this Greek text is PLURAL. "EACH" is from the same word translated "EVERY ONE" in Acts 2:38. Did the tongues of fire sit on exactly the same ones to whom the fiery tongues appeared? The obvious answer is, 'yes!' In Acts 2:38, the group that is commanded to 'repent ye' is not more or less than the ones who are commanded to 'be baptized individually every one of ye (plural)...for the forgiveness of the sins of ye. Other examples of this construction are seen in John 6:7; Lk 4:40 "We ask: "How many more repented than were baptized?" "Every one of you" is added appositively to "Repent ye" and they both refer to the same ones."1 Good day, Disciplerami 1www_bearvalleycofc_orgZarticlesZbaptismEssential_html _ is for a dot Z is for a forward slash |
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159 | To be saved must we be baptised? | Acts 2:38 | disciplerami | 77890 | ||
Acts 2:38 Grammar Corrected It has been stated several times on this forum that the Greek construction found in Acts 2:38 wrongly leaves the impression that 'repentance' and 'baptism' are necessary for salvation. ________ Morant61 has said, "Greek pronouns and verbs must match in both person and number. While it sounds nice to say that Peter is simply going from the group to the individual, doing so seperates the command to 'be baptized' from the promise of 'forgiveness of sins'. One cannot say in Greek, "Be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins!" "Ignore the rest of the sentence for the moment. The above sentence in Greek would be impossible. The only imperative that can go with the promise of forgiveness of sins in the plural 'repent'." ________ Acts 2:38 reads: Repent ye (2nd person, plural) and be baptized (3rd singular) each one (HEKASTOS, see Thayer's notes) of ye (plural pronoun).... unto the remission of sins of ye (plural pronoun)... Morant61 says it is not proper to say, "be baptized (singular) for the forgiveness of your (plural) sins." Thayer disagrees and offers several places where this is done when HEKASTOS (each, every) is used. "HEKASTOS, when it denotes individuality, every one of many, is often added appositively to nouns and pronouns and verbs in the plural number: Jn16:32; Acts 2:8; Lk2:3; Acts3:26; 1Pt4:10; Rev5:8; Rev20:13. (Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon, 1889, p.192) Here is a perfect example in Acts 2:3, "and appeared (3rd PLURAL) to them (autois, dative PLURAL) tongues as of fire distributing themselves (nominative PLURAL) and they rested (literal, 'it rested' 3rd SINGULAR) on each one (HEKASTOS, each, every) of them (genetive PLURAL). The "them/autois" of "there appeared unto THEM" in this Greek text is PLURAL. "EACH" is from the same word translated "EVERY ONE" in Acts 2:38. Did the tongues of fire sit on exactly the same ones to whom the fiery tongues appeared? The obvious answer is, 'yes!' In Acts 2:38, the group that is commanded to 'repent ye' is not more or less than the ones who are commanded to 'be baptized individually every one of ye (plural)...for the forgiveness of the sins of ye. Other examples of this construction are seen in John 6:7; Lk 4:40 "We ask: "How many more repented than were baptized?" "Every one of you" is added appositively to "Repent ye" and they both refer to the same ones."1 Good day, Disciplerami 1www_bearvalleycofc_orgZarticlesZbaptismEssential_html _ is for a dot Z is for a forward slash |
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160 | Identifying the born again moment | NT general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 77868 | ||
The gift of tongues was given to a donkey too, but that didn't save his soul :) The outpouring of the Spirit in Acts 10 was a sign, that's all. It's funny that you think you've made a point: "They were praising God, which unbelievers can't do (1 Cor 2:14)" Attention forum, does anyone think 'unbelievers' praise God? Raise you hands, everyone who thinks 'unbelievers' praise God?....Still looking....waiting....no hands going up yet....raise your hands if you believe 'unbelievers' praise God.... Well, I guess no one thinks that 'unbelievers' praise God. So what was your point??? If the question is can the 'unsaved' praise God? The answer is yes, they can and do. Cornelius was not saved yet, when the God heard his prayers and saw his good works (Acts 10:2,4). I assume that he was even praising God in his prayers to God, the ones the angel says God heard. And he was not yet saved (Acts 11:14). So, once again, let the forum know that Searcher56 is once again wrong. Disciplerami |
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