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121 | Mat. 24:36 | Bible general Archive 2 | jlhetrick | 155402 | ||
Very good response and well explained. Another question if I may. Of course the word "catholic" means by general definition, "universal". Agreed and understood. But what does the word "catholic" mean as defined in today's multi-denominational "church"? Furthermore, in today's "all-inclusive", "any-thing goes" culture that is quickly and firmly establishing, even within the christian church, how is "universal" being defined. My point here is that I have always had a problem with the inclusion of Article #9 in it's current language based on what I think might be the obvious answers to my above questions. I completely agree with your explanation and understanding of Article #9 which I share, though you didn't address the meaning of the 'apostolic' church. Final question; as the Nicene Creed has been changed over time in order to best reflect what the christian church understands and believes as true regarding the biblical teaching of the essentials, might it be time to deal with Article #9? Sincerely, Jeff |
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122 | Mat. 24:36 | Bible general Archive 2 | jlhetrick | 155446 | ||
Doc, Thanks for the well researched and presented explanation here and for responding to my questions. Most of what you have stated here I am familiar with (and agree with as well) though I would have had to do some research to list the creeds and statements as linked to their respective denominations. As I am sure you knew all along I was intentionally playing on words because I felt that the dialogue in answer and question form would be beneficial for any who might be interested in the topic. In addition, I very likely would not have been able to articulate it as clearly and well as you did. Once again, thanks, Jeff |
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123 | Relate answer to first paycheck on a job | OT general | jlhetrick | 179056 | ||
Hi brother Mark, good response. But will you please cite the bible translation from which you quoted 2 Corinthians 9:7-8. I noticed your translation, in verse 9, says "..always having all SELF sufficienty.." (emphasis added). It appears that the SELF sufficiency kinda contradicts the "God is able". Not splitting hairs I hope, but this really jumped out at me and I did a parrallel search of about 10 or 12 translations and couldn't find the "self" in any of them. In Christ, Jeff |
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124 | explain II Chronicles 7:14 | OT general | jlhetrick | 179079 | ||
Hello Searcher and thanks for the input. Let me respectfully disagree with your position here. I did read your post to Hickory, however, it appears to be a post directed to me instead and doesn't really, in my opinion, begin to answer Hickory's question, and/or attempt to explain the verse. My thought is that you either missed the point entirely, or I failed to articulate it properly. In either case allow me to attempt to address and clarify my point. To begin with let me clarify by referrring back to my post; that I clearly stated that the words spoken by God in the verse in question was spoken to Solomon regarding Israel. So there should be no confusion there I hope. But the confilict appears to be your disagreement with my applying the content to Christians today and the church as a whole. To be clear, I never applied the passage to the US and would never attempt to do so. The US is not "God's people". But Christians certainly are (John 10:27-29 for example). God's choosing the nation of Israel and electing individuals to salvation (including you and me) are very definately two separate issues; the details of which are something for a separate topic perhaps. So to the clarification. Your point is reflected in your question to Hickory: "… has this ever happened to us? "If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or if I command the locust to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among My people. My short answer is, yes. Many trials and tribulations are experienced daily by individual Christians as well as the larger church body. Please don't miss the point here, my response to Hickory was very focused. The message very clearly taught in the passage was/is that of fallen Israel's relationship with Creator God. The application, man's (our) fallen state, the need for acknowledgement of sin in humility, the requirement of repentance and the requisit of total dependence on God. It's about relationship my friend. It is not required that we specifically experience a drout (though we have and many individual Christian farmers have endured one of their life's biggest challenges) or pestilence (though we have been dealing with that world-wide for decades on a large scale). No, the message, and perhaps the purpose of it's inclusion for our benefit today is, God's holy and righteous standard regarding man's position before Him. So regarding your final statement "Even if we are His people called by His name, the context doesn’t allow this verse to apply to Christians..." I whole-heartedly, and respectfully disagree. In addition, you might also consider what the Scriptures give us (you and me and all Christians) to apply from the lesson of Job. To date, God has never allowed Satan direct access to inflict my body to be covered head to toe in oozing sores. Still, in what sickness I have endured, and that of loved ones, it is Job's story, more than any other, that I have drawn strength and faith in God. This is what I mean by application. Hope I made better sense in this post. Again, thanks for the input my brother, Jeff |
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125 | explain II Chronicles 7:14 | OT general | jlhetrick | 179115 | ||
Hello again Searcher, I'm confident that Hickory appreciated your post. My efforts were to answer his question by explaining the verse, thus, my explaining that the Lord was speaking to Solomon about Israel. My intention beyond that was to draw the conclusion out in a way that best represents good bible study. That is, how do I, the student today, evaluate the Scripture and apply it to my life and my relationship with God. I'm glad you posted and gave me the opportunity to be more clear about my position. My impression of you, based on having followed your posts for some time, is that you are a well grounded and serious student of the word. Your understanding of the Word is always appreciated and always contributes to deeper thought and consideration. Again, thanks and God bless, JEff |
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126 | explain II Chronicles 7:14 | OT general | jlhetrick | 179116 | ||
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127 | Why the need for manna? | OT general | jlhetrick | 179745 | ||
Hank, how true, how true. There was a time when I read passages like this and thought to myself; How on earth can someone have so clear an example of God's intervention and still have a waning faith. Of course, it's easy to see the lack of faith and obvious sin of others. Hind-sight is a weired but useful thing. We have the good furtune of having the sin of others laid out for us in Scripture; as well as their successes in submission and obedience. But the true growth comes when we realize our own sin and lack of faith. How much more has He provided for me regarding material things. I have learned to use that hind-sight, remembering how the Lord has provided in great times of need and continually on a daily basis. Even still, I frequently find myself putting forth the independent effort. Thanks for your response, Jeff |
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128 | Why the need for manna? | OT general | jlhetrick | 179746 | ||
Thanks Azure. Know that the struggle is a common one. Know too that the existance of this struggle is a sign of God's Holy Spirit within us, otherwise, there would be no struggle. Praise the Lord for not allowing us to be content in our sin and lack of faith. Praise the Lord for His testings. Only He can increase our faith. God bless, Jeff |
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129 | Why the need for manna? | OT general | jlhetrick | 179816 | ||
Hello again LAP, I admit that I have never done an intensive verse by verse study of Exodus. You say that "the miracle is that God kept the Israelites alive as well as the Herds!" From what I have read I can't accept that until I have Scriptural support. Will you please point me to it. Thanks. I agree with you that we gain a deeper understanding by understanding the culture and time, etc. in the love of Christ, Jeff |
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130 | Why the need for manna? | OT general | jlhetrick | 179867 | ||
LAP, I'm not sure I can get too involved in a discussion if it were to become too involved with the issue of the sacrificial system. I'm simply not that knowledgeable on the subject and it is actually an extremely large subject when all is considered. After further reading though, it would seem that there continued to be a portion of the herds existing even at the time of the manna. We do see the continued use and further development of the ritual of sacrifice at Saini and beyond. This may have contributed to the "grumbling" of the people as the animals were needed for sacrifice and not necessarily available for food. We can't forget the Quail for meat along with the manna. Anyway, that was your original question, "why the need for manna...." I couldn't imagine life without meat and bread :( If you have access to the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia it offers a great deal of information on the various rituals and systems of sacrifice. If you don't already have a good digital bible study library you can download a very good one for free at the esword webpage. The ISBE, along with many other study helps can be downloaded for free as well. I am not affiliated in any way with esword, just passing on the information. God bless, Jeff PS. how 'bout entering some Personal Profile info so we can learn a little about you :) |
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131 | First animal sacrifice who, when, why? | OT general | jlhetrick | 181190 | ||
Hello Ambrus, Welcome to the forum. You were a chapter late. Jeff :) |
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132 | Who di God listen to in Old testement? | OT general | jlhetrick | 238579 | ||
Very Good... God wasn't bargaining... Abraham was. | ||||||
133 | Who di God listen to in Old testement? | OT general | jlhetrick | 238580 | ||
isn't like us to bargain with God... as if we can persuade Him? | ||||||
134 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 160870 | ||
Hello again hetfield, I thank God for your earnest search for the truth. God says that "...those who seek me will find me." (Proverbs 8:17). From experience I can say that this is not a single event of finding but an ongoing process of revelation and change as we study God's word and learn obedience. God can and does speak to our spirit through His Spirit, convicting us of wrong and encouraging us. But how do we learn who He is and know Him? I argue that it's through the bible which He has established as the primary method of teaching us who He is and His plan for mankind (and of course the Holy Spirit is at work in that too). You write: "I believe the Gospel message is in the bible. Not that the bible is the gospel message." Imagine if I was told by a new boss that I had to read and follow the company's personel policy manual as the governing authority of the company. Would it be logical to respond with something like; I believe the companies governing authority is found in that manual, but I do not believe that manual is the governing authority? It would be the another way of telling my new boss that I will read the manual and decide for myself which part of it I consider to be governing and then follow that portion only as having authority over me. This is not only illogical, but also insufficient. I would soon find myself in error on some part and the same governing authority (manual) that has established authority will serve as the legitimacy for my discipline and possibly being fired. I can continue to denie it's authority over me all the way out the door and into the unemployment line. My denial of it does nothing to lessen it's authority. Another simple way of looking at the bible when considering it as totally authoratative, from God, the truth and without error is this. If the bible is not the word of God and only parts of it contain God's word, which parts do I include? Again, it would be irrational to use any of it in this case because I would not know what was from God and what was not. Another argument goes like this. If there is a single false statement or untruth found anywhere in the bible, then how can I trust any of it. Finally, you write: "After being set free and finding the truth about Gods salvation through faith in Christ I am very vigilant about what people tell me. People have told me and I have believed for years that the bible is the word of god. My research has led me to believe that the bible is an accurate account of the life of Jesus. I am thankfull for the new testament! But the word of god? My faith is in Christ. I think some people put their faith in the bible. I put mine in Christ." Think of this more deeply. Why would you put your faith in the Christ you learned of and came to know from the bible, if the bible is not the Word of God? The New testament is where we find the risen Christ. Paul wrote: 1 Cor 15:13-14 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. NIV Think on it. God would not have you deceived. He promises to honor and reward your seeking Him and He will do it. Continue the search and God bless you in your journey. Sincerely, Jeff |
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135 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 160871 | ||
Hi Kalos, Thanks for the kind words and be assured that I greatly appreciate your contributions to the forum as well. Sincerely, Jeff |
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136 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 160894 | ||
Hello hetfield, I wanted to respond to the post/response you made to Jayell. I want to ask a simple question to help give you more perspective on how to approach this issue as you seek the truth. You say you accept the OT. The OT teaches that God has authority over all things and is the creator of all things. It says that He promises to uphold His word. Do you not believe that He was in control of the writing and the compiling of the bible which is believed by those who He has called to Himself to be His word? If He chose to use the written word to speak to us then it must be the bible. No other writing makes the claim. If it is not the bible, then you and I have no hope in what we say we hope in. If it is the bible, do you not think that an all powerful God who has control over all of creation also kept control over the writing and compiling of His word to us? Plese don't be offended, I have not seen that others are judging you in their disagreement. It's only that your debate is not logical or rational and others are having a difficult time, I believe, following your argument. It is beginning to appear that you are not "seeking" the truth in this matter, but that you have already concluded what you believe to be the truth and are resistant to what others are trying to teach/explain. We love you and want you believe what God says, not what we say because we say it. God says: Isa 55:10-11 10 As the rain and the snow come down from heaven, and do not return to it without watering the earth and making it bud and flourish, so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater, 11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth: It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it. NIV God's word is the bible, both OT and NT. It's purpose is to bring worship of Him and salvation to men. It is to provide for our budding as new christians and our flourishing as we grow in knowledge of Him. It provides the seed that we sow and the bread for those who hunger for Him. It is what sustains us in Him teaching us His love, grace, and mercy and how to be obedient to Him. I pray that you continue to seek with an open mind and an open heart. I do believe that God Himself will show you if your sincere in your search. Sincerely, Jeff |
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137 | Is belief in the bible needed to be save | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 160913 | ||
Hello again hetfield, Just want to make a point here with part of your argument. You write: "Saying the bible has saved us is like saying to the person who witnessed to us saved us." Very well said. Christians do no not say that the bible "saves" us and without going back through every response in this thread, I don't believe anyone on the forum has said that. Perhapse this is where you are having a difficult time with what Christians claim. The bible does not save us, the finished work of Christ is what saves us. But One first has to know of this work and then believe it and have faith in it for ones salvation. It is through the bible that we learn of the work of Christ that saves us. That is how the bible is able to say to us that the faith that we have in fact does come by hearing the word of God. In and of myself I do not even have the faith to believe in the bible or to believe in Jesus Christ and what He did to save me. It is God Himself that gives me that faith and He has done so through my reading and hearing others teach His word, the bible, while speaking to my heart through His Spirit. I fear that your ability to believe may have been hindered by the early experiences that you mentioned earlier in this thread. It seems as though you are looking for scientific type data or other evidence outside of scripture to convince yourself that the bible is real or not. In any case, you are placing your hope and basing your salvation on information that you believe to be no more than the written words of men. This is a scary thought. It seems to me that it would be impossible for someone to truly believe in the true God and at the same time believe that He only spoke to us between the lines and paragraphs of the writings of several men. That would be a most cruel joke for God to play on mankind, leaving us to wonder which part to believe and which part to throw out. That would hardly be a mechanism for building faith. One final thought. If you are truly searching for the truth in this matter then it is fair to say that you are not sure. Otherwise you would believe you already know the truth and would not need to spend this kind of time working it out. If this is true let me ask you to consider not making statements such as "the bible is not the word of God". You might imagine how offended God might be if it is in fact. Sincerely, Jeff |
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138 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 164246 | ||
Hello Mark, Very well explained. Thank you! |
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139 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 164474 | ||
Hello Jayell, Well articulated. Jeff |
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140 | Saved by belief or belief and baptism? | NT general Archive 1 | jlhetrick | 164480 | ||
exactly! And with that said, my 2 cents is this. Christians should be baptized. Not for salvation, but in keeping with the example set by Christ and also as a public testimony to our comittment to Christ. Jeff |
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