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1 | Horses eating horses? | Bible general | jlhetrick | 240084 | ||
But it's not there. Maybe the best discussion would be to discuss the importance of not trying to make the Bible say something it doesn't say. Your friend might benefit from that and learn to read and understand what is written. | ||||||
2 | salvation | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 198769 | ||
Steeno- Seems as though you have really gotten off to a poor start here on the forum. Remember that when we stumble we must quickly right ourselves or we'll be suddenly on our face. In short- your opinion, like my own, is of very little value here and even less so when our understanding and beliefs are not supported by scripture. Saying that they are supported is not sufficient and again, as Azure stated in an earlier post, we must always consider those readers that are not participating in the thread and may have little or no prior bible study background from which to consider our statements. I'm not sure if your lack of significant biblical reference is due to ignorance or arrogance and I hope I am wrong in both cases. I say this because many are guilty of hearing something, in church for example, and clining to it; believing it without ever establishing it as truth by testing it in light of Scripture. When it becomes an issue they find they have nothing to stand on scripurally. Then they're faced with options. They can arrogantly stand their ground. They can study Scripture for the answer (as they should have done in the first place) and if scripture supports their belief they can then appropriately articulate it. Or, and this is the hardest for most people I believe; They can accept that they are wrong and correct their theology (I sure know the pain and yet joy of that). In any case you have faild, refused, to even attempt to give sound, biblical justification for your position (whether you are right or wrong) in spite of being asked by multiple users (though you have dropped a verse or two in the mix). It's as though you drew your own conclusions about the position of others and then took their statements out of context. For example; you took what others have said regarding FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD and suggested they are saying or implying they really meant salvation. I don't find a single argument in the thread suggesting that a saved person's sin (and we all still do) results in a loss of salvation resulting in the need to become saved again which is dependent on the asking for forgiveness, which in and of itself is a work. Yet, you continue to take it there. If you are not able to see the clear teaching in both OT and NT of the process by which God sanctifies those He saves then you will miss the whole point. If you are not guilty of sin you are not in need of reproof. If God corrects those He loves then those He loves must be in need of correction. If we, having known the truth and being beneficiaries of God's grace find ourselves once again sinning, what level of arrogance might we be guilty of when we simply say, "oh well, He's already forgiven me, no need to address it, I might offend Him." (what's in quotes is my impression of what you are saying and not an attempt to quote you directly). I wonder how I might respond to one of my patient's were he to say to me that he had no need to appologize to his wife for having wronged her in some way and no need to ask her forgiveness because "she's already my wife". Perhaps not the best analogy but I really do wonder. Never heard anything like it and I do deal with some seriously prideful and arrogant types in my work. I hope I've contributed something helpful, Jeff |
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3 | salvation | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 198770 | ||
So the book of 1John was written to unbelievers? Can you provide some bible? Thanks, Jeff |
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4 | our righteousness | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 199617 | ||
And NO! God's Baby- try making use of the "Search" box in the upper right side column of the home page. Type in, for example, the word "righteous" and read to your hearts content. Also, it would be nice (though not required) if you would add some information to your user profile so we can know a little about you. You can do that by clicking on "Update User Info." under the "Resources" heading found in the left side column. Another suggestion is to not ask several questions at once as you might find it difficult to responsibly deal with the several different discussions that might follow. Just trying to be helpful. God bless, Jeff |
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5 | please read | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 199675 | ||
G.B. forgive the late response. Yes there was an original question, sorry. Your post I responded to had been entered as a question and so was posted at the top of the home page as though a new topic. Remember that once a thread is started enter all following posts as "Note" so that it shows up chronologically on the home page and not as a new question at the top. You may have already figured that out since my last post to you. In other words, only click on "Question" when your starting a new topic, even if your next post in a thread is a question. Hope I haven't gotten you totally confused at this point. God bless, Jeff |
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6 | Seeing things? | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 200078 | ||
Val- sometimes it's best to simply leave these kinds of things alone for more than one obvious reason. To begin with, grief is a very powerful emotion and process that weighs heavy on a person to include his/her mind. Any attempt to talk them out of their "vision" might cause undue conflict. On the other hand, encouraging thinking and behavior that seems to be contradictory to Scripture may lead the person into a wrong direction. There are plenty of mistics running about that will be happy to help your friend to fully develop the vision and even interpret it I'm sure. I happen to live in a part of the country where there are a lot of folks that are not only all too willing to believe nonsense but actually whip into a frenzy when faced with it. Many of these are regular church goers of a particular denominational flavor. Southern New Mexico, this town of Las Cruces where I live, has had more than one Jesus in a tortilla but they tend to favor visions or impressions of the Virgian Mary. An employee at the hospital where I work had "the virgin Mary" in her window and for many days there was a long line of people circulating through her home every evening to see it. One particularly excited coworker who had seen it and couldn't shut up about it asked me if I had gone yet. That was my opportunity to ask her "just exactly what does the Virgin Mary look like?" Believe it or not she started off in a very animated description before I stopped her. I finally explained, briefly, that no one living has ever seen Mary to include there being no photos of her so why, why would so many people be so quick to declare a form, made by condensation in the window, the Virgian Mary? She wasn't even fazed by my unbelief. After all. She had seen it herself. She believed. Hope this helps, Jeff |
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7 | any verses show ethical business profit? | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 200830 | ||
MJH- do you consider this an answer based on biblical principals? "What ever the market will bare. Charge the largest mark-up you can." May I point you upward in the thread and ask you to consider the responses from Wild Olive Shoot? Thanks, Jeff |
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8 | Does God want us to belong to one church | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 205184 | ||
Nope, not at all what you are to understand. Not even sure how you arrived at that conclusion from my post. If you are more specific as to what part of what I said lead you so far off I will do my best to rearrange my words for better clarification. I don't mean for her to do anything other than arrive at an answer from the Scripture I pointed to. Hope I didn't confuse her as well. God bless, Jeff |
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9 | Does God want us to belong to one church | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 205187 | ||
Tamara- disregard my last post to your last post. I should have gone back and been more careful to read my own post before responding to you. Now I'm confused :-) In the post you responded to I had a typo. I pointed to 1Cor 11:13 but meant 1Cor 11:3. Hope this clears it up; but if not please ask further so I can make my position clear. thanks for pointing out my folly, Jeff |
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10 | Does God want us to belong to one church | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 205188 | ||
Clarifying Note (I hope) In my above note where I reference 1Cor. 11:13 I was mistaken. I intended to reference 1Cor. 11:3 Thank you to Tamara for brining attention to my post so that I could clarify it. God bless and sorry for any confusion, Jeff |
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11 | Puzzled ?? | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 206128 | ||
Imm- also keep in mind that when responding to an old thread, the person your responding to may be inactive. Jeff |
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12 | What do we have as a conseqence of goda | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 208590 | ||
Brother- I agree, and with brother Hank as well. I actually considered, in the brief time I had to respond to Marilyn, a word that would best describe my thoughts. Coming up short, "nothing short of amazed" was the best I could do. Not amazed only, and certainly not in any common, modern day concept; but at least overwhelmed and in awe. Surely those of us who have truly been touched by His grace realize that no words approach it's description. It reminds me of a song I used listen to back in the day (wait, am I old enough to have a back in the day???). It was written by Geoff Moore and Steven Curtis Chapman and titled Listen to Our Hearts. The chorus says: So listen to our hearts Here our spirit sing A song of praise that flows From those you have redeemed We will use the words we know To tell you what an awesome God You are But words are not enough To tell you of our love So listen to our hearts The rest of the lyrics can be found by searching "Listen to Our Hearts Lyrics". In my opinion, it's a good illustration of what you and brother Hank have pointed out here. God bless, Jeff |
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13 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209132 | ||
Doc- thanks for the response brother. Not sure though, what you meant by never rendering assurance as it applies to my post; if you would clarify please. Thank you for offering further context to my reference. Let's back the context up in the other direction so that we gain even further understanding. Matthew 7:1-2 (ESV) 1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Is Christ contradicting Himself when shortly after he offers the warning of false profits? The question is rhetorical of course. We know He was not. Recognizing false teaching (and that by the fruit) and judging the eternal state of another is two very different things. The immediate context seems to make that clear. So that we don't miss the essence of the question (and of my response to tyboswell) the focus here was/is on how to witness to someone in sin (in this case, homosexuality). To jump to equating the homosexual sinner with a false prophet (the context of your bible passage refernce) doesn't appear an accurate position to take. Let us never forget that the grace of God is capable of delivering every person from a lifestyle of sin, even the homosexual. I was no better in mine than the homosexual is in his or hers. Lord forgive me if I ever think it’s mine to look upon another and judge his eternity. I liken that to David's own concern in Psalm 19:13. Tyboswell, if your reading along…. Sorry for straying from the focus of your question. We tend to do that when parts of posts seem to require attention or clarification. It’s part of the process. God bless, Jeff |
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14 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209163 | ||
Peacebestill- Sorry for the delay... at work and just getting to my lunch break. Sorry for your concern. The problem may be in your reading into the posts, not reading all of the post(s), not keeping context in mind or any combination of these. A reread of my posts should, hopefully, relieve your concern. You wrote: “When one presents the gospel there are certain vital elements that cannot really be left out if we are to give the message straight.” In my response to Tyboswell I wrote: “If you have the opportunity to talk to any person regarding his/her particular lifestyle, the best way to do that is with the Word of God. Straight and to the point should be the rule. Otherwise we might end up thinking we can somehow present it in a way (our own way) that is somehow "more effective" So I clearly took the position that NO elements should be left out; rather than “certain” elements should be included. I went on to point out that: “Contrary to a lot of approaches out there today, there is simply no better counsel than the Word of God. No method of presentation is going to improve on it. Pertaining to me you wrote: “it seems as if you would prefer not to tell a sinner that they are on their way to hell...” This seems to be the first time in the thread this has come up. Not quite sure what you mean by “on their way to hell” but my response was that it is not our place to say they are GOING to Hell. Please consider my response to Doc again. 1 Thessalonians 5:9 says: For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, (ESV) Romans 5:8 says: But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Who does the “us” in Romans 5:8 refer too? Is there a particular sin that is beyond Christ’s redemption? Is homosexual behavior? You wrote: “God plans to punish all sinners with a terrible judgment and wrath.” Well… no… God has and is saving some. By His grace he calls some out of sin saving us through faith in Jesus Christ. (Eph 2:5, 8). We don’t “get saved” but rather, God saves us but I'm assuming here that you meant that those that He does not save will die eternally separated from God. I’m afraid that we too often pick and choose sins (homosexuality, murder, etc.) and judge the involved person as lost. Thankfully, and as I’m trying to point out in this thread, the call is not ours. There will be homosexuals who spend eternity separated from God. There will homosexuals who are called out of their sin, touched by the mercy and grace of God as they receive the faith to believe and receive that most miraculous gift in Christ. As for your reference to 1Corinthians 9-10 I’m afraid therein may be the problem. As you so rightly argue, the WHOLE message is what’s important. Please refer to verse 11. Stopping short at verse 10 neglects the gospel message. Hope this is helpful and God bless, Jeff |
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15 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209193 | ||
Doc- sorry for the delay... BBQ night with the family...thanks for the response brother. Thanks for having patients with me also. For easier following I’ll include your quote of me. “"It's not our place to ever tell someone their going to Hell..." (sic)” Now I’ll quote the original question from Tyboswell: “how can we minister to homosexuals rather than tellin them they are going to hell or avoidin the issue i hop im clear” I was responding directly to Tyboswell’s “rather than telling them they are going to hell.” My point (and I’m sorry I’m having such a hard time articulating it) was/is that it is not our place as fallen creatures to judge another person’s eternal state. We couldn’t if we wanted to and we’re never taught in Scripture to do so. With that said, God’s grace to transform the unbeliever is not only in the question, it is the essential point, both in regard to his question and my response to him. We might look at it this way. If we know a person is already going to Hell, why would we witness to him/her in the first place? It’s possibly a reason why God does not give you and me the ability to know if another will be lost to eternal damnation or saved by God’s grace. As long as there is still breath and a conscious thought, there is the possibility of responding to the Savior; even if one’s sin has him nailed to a cross. The thief on the cross next to our Savior certainly fell into 1Corinthians 6:9-11. Of course... so did the Apostle Paul, so did I, so did you and the list goes on. As I have represented in this thread (at least I believed so) my response had nothing to do with not calling sin for what it is. It was specifically to say that we are not in a position to judge the eternal condition of another. I am quite in agreement with you that Scripture clearly teaches how a person’s behavior effects how he/she stands before God; Just as Scripture teaches that none of those behaviors are beyond the redemptive love and grace of our Holy God. As you pointed out from Matthew 7: "...the Scripture is unequivocal that we are to be careful observers, not only of our own lives (2 Corinthians 13:5), but also the lives of others (Hebrews 12:15-16)” Keep in mind that Hebrews 12:15-16 is talking to believers about believers. The context of the passage is that of describing, in part,the process of sanctification to include that part in which believers participate one to another. It has nothing whatever to do with witnessing to the unsaved nor does it speak to judging the final state of another’s sole. Doc, thanks for, as always, working patiently through the topic. Not that I’m calling it done, just don’t know that I can add more than I already have offered. God bless, Jeff |
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16 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209247 | ||
Dear Doc- Here is how you put it: "Scripture is quite clear about a number of specific behaviors and how they relate to how a person stands before our Holy God" I believe Bishop Ryle is talking about something different, but I agree with you... he makes plain sense. Justification is not an ongoing process. When we are justified, it is a final act of saving grace. However, how we might "stand before God" after that (being justified) would be, as I understand it, a matter of our being sanctified (Hebrews 10:14). The new creation continues in a process of being made holy. Even as new creations we are not perfect in our obedience and submission to God. Perfectly justified and saved, but not perfectly holy. This is what I assumed you were infering when you wrote "Scripture is quite clear about a number of specific behaviors and how they relate to how a person stands before our Holy God". If I took your words out of context and/or my paraphrase seemed to imply a different meaning than your intended one, then please accept my sincere apology. God bless, Jeff |
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17 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209248 | ||
You wrote: "BECAUSE SINNERS WHO DO NOT REPENT ARE GOING TO HELL" I'll point to "WHO DO NOT REPENT" and ask you to couple that with the rest of what I have written in the thread. If your not able to get it from that then I'm afraid I don't have anything more to offer. Good luck with this, Jeff |
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18 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209295 | ||
Blessed day to you also! | ||||||
19 | how can we minister to homosexuals | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209296 | ||
Amen! | ||||||
20 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | jlhetrick | 209359 | ||
Brother Brad- You wrote: "God is dealing with individuals now, not nations!" Will you elaborate please? Thanks and God bless, Jeff |
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