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121 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128779 | ||
Same ole Hank. Precious soul. A little older. A little wiser. More than a little slyer. I love reading your posts Hank. In more ways than one, they are truly an inspiration. GB |
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122 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128777 | ||
I give up! As I noted in an earlier post, I am familiar with the antics of many who use these boards. Your antics are obvious and I have no desire for farther debate. Open your bible. Read it with an open mind and closed mouth, for it will be of no benifit for you to yack at it either. Then read it again. Discussion ended. GB |
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123 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128770 | ||
Gen 15:6 And he had faith in the Lord, and it was put to his account as righteousness. But did righteousness provide salvation? Has it ever? I don’t think so. Why did the Lord require sacrifices in OT times? I still contend that, in a more literal sense, OT salvation depended on “living right, sacrificing and obeying the word of God.” Likewise today, we are told to live as Jesus did. To do so we must make some sort of sacrifices on a daily basis, whether it be avoiding an argument even when we know we are right, committing some act of kindness at our own expense, or what. Back then, they simply had to believe Gods Word and live it. Today one simply has to believe in the Son He sent to pay our sin debt, confess our sins, repent and accept His gift. The rest will come with spiritual growth. GB |
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124 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128761 | ||
Did I say "that there was no grace or forgiveness in the OT?" Please provide some scriptural references concerning someone in the OT who was saved "by grace, through faith.” ie Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Noah found Grace in the eyes of the Lord. Abraham, Moses, David, Isaiah and many others did the same. By the way, Abraham was the father of faith. What other commands of the Lord did they follow? What was the role of the law in OT times? GB |
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125 | Christians before Jesus came | Bible general Archive 2 | Glory Bound | 128748 | ||
Chesed, I am sorry that you misread or misunderstood my statement, for I did not state any "conditions for salvation." I was answering the second part of the original question which, if you "read" it, has nothing to do with anyone after the Savior. What I stated was as follows. "As to how people were saved prior to Jesus' sacrifice; I have done no in depth study on the matter, but from what I have read in scripture, it boiled down to living right, sacrificing and obeying the word of God. Isn't that what it is all about in the first place, obeying the word? Jesus was and is the word." If one obeys the word, they will believe in Jesus. Concerning Grace, you are confusing New Testament doctrine with Old Testament times. Scripture states that we are “saved by Grace through faith.” This statement was made “after Christ made His sacrifice and has nothing to do with the salvation of those prior to Jesus. If you can provide scripture to support your statement, which as I read it, and I paraphrase, says that even those before Christ were “saved by Grace through faith,” I would be glad to debate this matter. Otherwise, if you have no scriptural foundation for your statement, it is simple conjecture. I have no desire to debate conjecture, for you are entitled to your opinion. I prefer scriptural fact. If one reads the Old Testament accounts, the facts concerning this matter should be evident. Please be aware Chesed; though I have been here before, I am relatively new to this board and its current members. I know some, but there are considerably more, including yourself which I do not know. I am a fairly learned student of scripture, and I am very familiar with the antics of many which wish to engage in its debate. I am not saying that you are doing this, but when they were plainly stated, and a reader misquotes my words, I tend to wonder if the reader is intentionally trying to twist my words into something I did not say. Once I realize someone is attempting to twist my words, this someone looses all credibility with me and I loose all desire to debate with this person. In Christ and His truth GB |
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