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1101 | Do you have scriptures to affirm? | 2 Thess 2:3 | skccab | 187577 | ||
Hi MRoyal, My understanding of the rapture and tribulation run like this: Jesus comes in the clouds to call His own away, He does not come to earth. The church is removed from earth to avoid the judgments that are to come (after all, we were judged at the corss, and in Jesus found not guilty). Then the tribulation, then the verses that you have quoted take place and the second coming of Christ takes place, His coming back to the earth to set up His millennial reign on earth. Yes, during this time Christians will be persecuted, but these are people who were not true Christians at the time of the rapture. blessings cheri |
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1102 | Do you have scriptures to affirm? | 2 Thess 2:3 | skccab | 187730 | ||
Hi Royal Sorry took so long for me to respond, been very busy, had some down time at work tonight and read your verses. And I've never disagreed, those verses indeed do talk about the Second Advent, but not the catching away of the church. I have 4 questions (one is just a common sense, logic question, but I'm sure we get our logic from God): 1 - After Rev. 3 the Church is no longer seen as being on earth. If the church is still waiting to be caught away, where are we? 2 - REv. 19:9 (this is before the 2nd Advent) If the church is still on earth, then who are those present at the marriage supper of the Lamb? 3 - Rev. 19:14, if the church is still on earth waiting to be caught away, then who makes up the armies of the Lord that return to earth with Him to set up the millennial kingdom? And the logic question: If the Church is to go thru the judgments of the tribulation then why would God bother with a catching away to begin with, especially since the church would be returning from this catching away almost immediately to be with the Lord in the millennium period. For what purpose would the rapture serve at the end of the tribulation? blessings cheri |
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1103 | Do you have scriptures to affirm? | 2 Thess 2:3 | skccab | 187773 | ||
Hi Mark, You said it much better than I did, but you took my stance, the catching away happens before the tribulation, not after. It is not the second coming of Christ for He does not come to the earth but in the clouds to catch away His own. In the second coming He does come to earth with His own to set up the millennial kingdom. Thank you for your response, Mark blessings cheri |
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1104 | Do you have scriptures to affirm? | 2 Thess 2:3 | skccab | 187810 | ||
Hello, Mark Thanks for holding down the fort so to speak while i was at work. The scriptures I use to describe the rapture before the tribulation are the very same ones these fine folk use for the second coming. I just happen to see the "last trump" being just that - not the last and seventh trumpet - but as the assembly of Israelites would be called to gather by the blowing of a trump or ram's horn - so this "last trump" is God's last call to the Church to assemble and be caught up with the Lord and to be forever with the Lord. I cannot express it any other way. blessings cheri |
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1105 | What is apostasy? | 2 Thess 2:3 | skccab | 187957 | ||
Thank you, ebrian, You said that so beautifully. I know nothing of the Greek/Aramaic translations, so I couldn't use them. I've always seen the Rapture and the Lord's Day as two separate events. But we all have to remember that not all things are absolutely clear. Today we debate those two issues, just 2200 years ago (give or take) the Israelites could debate the Messiah coming as a Servant or a Conqueror - they could only see one advent - but which would it be? Although I am a pre-tribulationist myself, the one thing we can all agree on is that we SHALL be with the Lord, either before, in the middle or after the tribulation!!! Live in His blessings till He calls us home cheri |
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1106 | What is apostasy? | 2 Thess 2:3 | skccab | 187958 | ||
Thank you, ebrian, You said that so beautifully. I know nothing of the Greek/Aramaic translations, so I couldn't use them. I've always seen the Rapture and the Lord's Day as two separate events. But we all have to remember that not all things are absolutely clear. Today we debate those two issues, just 2200 years ago (give or take) the Israelites could debate the Messiah coming as a Servant or a Conqueror - they could only see one advent - but which would it be? Although I am a pre-tribulationist myself, the one thing we can all agree on is that we SHALL be with the Lord, either before, in the middle or after the tribulation!!! Live in His blessings till He calls us home cheri |
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1107 | Who is he who restrains?ebrain. | 2 Thess 2:7 | skccab | 188022 | ||
Hi all I agree with lionheart, Mark, and InGodITrust that it is the Church and the Holy Ghost that is removed. Without true believers standing together holding up shields of corporate faith, there is nothing to hold back the evil that is all around us. (While we are here the battle is great, but evil can only win small skirmishes.) And there will be a short period where there are no believers, save the 144,000. Whether the Holy Spirit is once again available to any believer (and I believe that He is or will be) or only to the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses is a whole other discussion. Just my 2cents worth blessings cheri |
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1108 | Who is he who restrains?ebrain. | 2 Thess 2:7 | skccab | 188025 | ||
hi InGod, Thank you for your note. But it's not just not wanting His Church here when all the bad stuff is going on, it's because we, the Church, in Jesus' Name have authority over the workings of evil. We see something going on in government that shouldn't be, there's no devil strong enough to withstand the prayers of the faithful as we stand together in agreement in God's Word and in prayer and intercession. The devil doesn't have a prayer :) nor have a leg to stand on. Sooooo we gotta be gone for all that to begin to take place. You think? blessings cheri |
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1109 | Who is he who restrains?ebrain. | 2 Thess 2:7 | skccab | 188027 | ||
InGod, That works for me :). blessings cheri |
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1110 | Who is he who restrains?ebrain. | 2 Thess 2:7 | skccab | 188043 | ||
Yes, Searcher, I believe He has given us His Name and His authority to use in prayer (see also Mt. 28:18-20). | ||||||
1111 | Pray for China, Please | 2 Thess 3:1 | skccab | 198311 | ||
Shalom Doc, I will most definitely join you in that prayer. My fellowship, Beth Tikkun, has 2 people already there in China (they left about 1-2 weeks ago) and they make the trip several times a year. (We also have people from and in Russia and Israel on a regular basis.) In prayer with you, dear brother Cheri |
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1112 | HOW DO WE HELP THOSE IN NEED? | 1 Tim 2:3 | skccab | 214493 | ||
Shalom Justme, Have you heard of Time Banking? With the group of people you are already feeding maybe you could get that started? It's a program that sees that everyone has something to offer that someone else needs - i.e., tudoring a child, fixing a roof, cleaning a home, mowing a lawn, etc. As one gives an hour or so of their time and talent to another, they deposit that time for someone else to do something for them that they cannot do for themselves (that is they don't know how to do it or cannot afford to pay for it). I'm looking into getting something like this started where I live. Cheri |
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1113 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208124 | ||
Shalom y'all, The little discussion we had going earlier about lying got me to thinking about this particular scene in Gen. 3:3 when Eve said to the serpent that God said not to even touch the fruit. We know that God created everything perfect, nothing was flawed, so I don't think it could be she was confused or forgetful (after all there wasn't a whole lot to remember, just don't eat from that tree over there, how hard is that?) And she hadn't eaten the fruit yet, so sin has not yet entered the picture. Her spirit was still alive and well. How did she know to lie since that would come with the knowledge of good and evil from the forbidden tree? (I do realize that Adam could have told her that, but then the only change would be how did Adam know to lie?) Does anyone have any thoughts on this, or better yet, done some study on it? Just thinking :-) Cheri |
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1114 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208126 | ||
Shalom and good evening to you I see what you are saying but then we go back to the point that if it isn't true, it's an untruth or a lie. Even a half truth is considered a whole lie (such as when Abram introduced Sarai as his sister which was true up to a point, but still a lie because it wasn't the whole truth). Now possibly Sarai's motive was more innocent than Abram's, but isn't it still a lie? Maybe I'm over-thinking the whole thing :-) Cheri |
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1115 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208130 | ||
Amen Suster Azure!! | ||||||
1116 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208131 | ||
Morning John and howdy Azure again You're right about not knowing what she was thinking, that's for sure. But I think maybe Azure hit the nail on the head. I hadn't thought about that at all - no real motive to lie. And lies generally do have some kind of motive. Perhaps if she thought just touching the fruit would result in death that would help keep her from thinking about eating it - didn't work though did it?? Thanks to both of you, dear sister and brother!! Cheri |
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1117 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208133 | ||
Shalom John and Azure, Gosh, I'd answered this and lost it!!! Doing really good right about now. You're right John, we can't know what Eve was thinking. You know, I think Azure may have hit the nail on the head. I hadn't thought about a lie needing a motive at all (even though I was dealing with Abram's motive and hers being different), but she really didn't have a motive. Possibly she figured if she could convince herself that just touching would result in death that would help keep her from wanting to eat it - didn't work though, did it? Thanks for the help, both of you, dear sister and dear brother Cheri |
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1118 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208135 | ||
John, Sometimes working all by myself for 8 hours I tend to overthink things, and miss the obvious!! Isn't it great that this Forum is available with so many great family members? Cheri |
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1119 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208137 | ||
Hey John, I don't think they mind as long as we don't carry on and on. Done. Cheri |
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1120 | Adam and Eve Perfect or Flawed | 1 Tim 2:11 | skccab | 208154 | ||
Shalom Steve, Now that's a thought! We don't have a passage with God actually saying that, but I'm sure much was said by Him to many that we don't have recorded. This was just something I was dealing with during my midnight shift. Thank you for offering your thoughts. :-) Cheri |
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