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1 | when we die where do we go immediately | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 39784 | ||
sleep becuase for the saint it is temporary. I think the first time that this became understood to the new testament saint was when Jesus said about one how had died, "he sleepeth" when the believer in Christ dies he is imeddiately with the Lord as the previous post made quite clear, but to us that are here on earth he sleepeth. We see only the dead body. But that state is not eternal. That body will be raised incorruptible and perfect. That is going to happen as sure as God is God. The promises of our body being raised incorruptible is a foundation of faith. As Paul said, if you remove the faith of a body raised from the dead, you remove faith of salvation. Paul said if the body be not raised you are still in sin. Only those that inherit the promise of a bodily resurrection have entered into the kingdom of not having sin imputed to them. It is a theological understanding that should be studied out. God Bless | ||||||
2 | Where was satan when he first sinned? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41148 | ||
I think Jensen made a good point here. That there are heavenlies and not just one heaven that God dwells in that satan was at. satan can and still has access to that heavenly realm where he accused Job. I am of the opinion that satan was able to access a higher level before and was cast down after his fall but my main question is do you see that fall occurring in Eden as stated by Ezek 28:13-15? | ||||||
3 | Where was satan when he first sinned? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41365 | ||
I am open. I have not concluded anything yet. But if in all instances where Mount of God occurs in the Bible it refers to the one in Jerusalem, then why would be a different Mount in Ezek 28 and if one decides that it is a different one what right or basis does he have to conclude this? In Ezek 20 Ezek referred to the mount and said... Ezekiel 20:40 0 For in mine holy mountain, in the mountain of the height of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, there shall all the house of Israel, all of them in the land, serve me: there will I accept them, and there will I require your offerings, and the firstfruits of your oblations, with all your holy things ... so if the same Ezek later says Ezekiel 28:14 4 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. .. Would not this same prophet be still referring to the same mount he has mentioned in a previous prophesy. What right or basis would one have for calling this Eden a different Eden than the Garden of Eden where we all saw that satan was indeed in in Gen 3. So we know that satan was in THAT Garden of Eden, we have no knowledge of any other Garden of Eden. But let us consider the stones of Fire for clarity. One concept I utterly reject is that such descriptions are ever placed in the Holy Word of God for emotional emphasis or poetic language. I believe there is always a power truth and revelation and in this instance a literal application behind such descriptive words as stones of fire. I used to listen to other preachers repeat other preachers about satan falling ages before the garden. I want to see the verse now. I only have this one about when he was perfect and then he was found with iniquity. It distinctly says he was perfect while still in Eden and then he was found with iniquity. When he shows up in Gen speaking to Eve, we know he has iniquity. We never see him in Gen in his perfect state. So unless you can demonstrate how in other parts of the Bible the Heavenlies are called Eden then I only have a right to assume that Eden is the Garden of Eden and no other Eden since I know of no other Eden. Making up things about "we can call heaven Eden if we want to" is Bambi theology and I cannot have anything to do with it because I can only put faith in the Word of God and not in any "made up" explanations. Until I see a passage where a prophet calles heaven Eden and it does not refer to the Garden Adam was in then I cannot say Ezek meant anything but Eden the garden Adam was in. But back to the stones of fire? If I just say that "stones of fire" is just phrases to inspire awe then I am not any closer to an answer to "what is the mount of God here?" And "which Eden does he refer to?" But if the stones of fire have meaning and can be identified then maybe that will bring me closer to a revelation that God would want me to be seeking out, (since He did see fit to put the words in the Bible for our instruction in righteousness). Consider these verses Ezekiel 28:14 4 Thou [art] the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee [so]: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:16 6 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Now look at Job 28 5 [As for] the earth, out of it cometh bread: and under it is turned up as it were fire. 6 The stones of it [are] the place of sapphires: and it hath dust of gold. 7 [There is] a path which no fowl knoweth, and which the vulture's eye hath not seen: |
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4 | Where was satan when he first sinned? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41366 | ||
This is a deep subject (no pun intended) that the stones of fire are those under neath the earth. That Lucifer had something to do with this realm seems evident by the description of both the precious jewels of his being and of the mention that he walked up and down in the stones of fire. There is a lot here to meditate on and compare with other verses. I do not see any scripture that say Lucifer was in heaven and fell long before man was created. That is raw speculation on the part of centuries of Bible teachers repeating each other not the Bible. That he was cast down from heaven is true but when? The only verse we have is this one. He was perfect in Eden. Then he was found with iniquity. So whatever the time frame was between the creation of Eden and the serpent tempting Eve, Lucifer went from perfect to having been found with iniquity. Now we know that it was the serpent that spoke to Eve and yet satan gets the blame. We know that even in Eden satan could not be seen by Eve, he had to embody a serpent. So it could be that satan was in the Garden as one of the Cherubs that had a job or position that related to planet earth and he had access to the lower parts of the earth, There was no hell there yet. I am guessing. Brain storming. :) Not trying to start a new cult or anything :) |
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5 | why would god want blood not fruit | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41373 | ||
I think that phebe is possibily referring to a common misunderstanding (or at least I suspect it is a misunderstanding) concerning the passage about Cain and Abel. Many bible preachers for many decades have preached that God did not accept Abels sacrifice because it was the fruit of the ground and He did accept Abel's becuase it was of the firstling of the flock and an animal whose blood was shed. The text actually reads like this... Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. 2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. 6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? 7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. The text does not say God would not accept the fruit of the Ground. The text does not say that God did not accept it because it was the fruit of the Ground. The text does say that Cain did not do well. If I look at the Law I see that God gave commands for offering the fruit of the ground. So we know that God did accept it. We also can read in Malachi 2:13 3 And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the LORD with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth [it] with good will at your hand. so we see that God would not accept an offering if the attitude was not right. The context of Malichi has them saying "that serving the Lord in offerings was a weariness and a drudgery" So we have scriptures that shed light on why Cain's offering was not accepted. He had a bad attitude. This again is evident by how he reacts when God rebukes him. Cain could have repented and mastered the sin and satan that crouched at the door of his heart, but instead he opens up the door with ANGER and wrath and lets the demons have their way and sin masters him. This application is applicable to your life today. If you go to church and do "christian" things becuase you think you "have" to but it is all becoming a chore to you, then it is time to get your heart right by faith and get back into the JOY that can be yours. |
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6 | Where was satan when he first sinned? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41385 | ||
You may have misunderstood my words. I am dealing with three thoughts now. 1) Eden 2)Mount of God 3)Stones of Fire What is Eden? We know about the Garden. What other Eden is there in scripture. What is the mount of God. As you listed they all refer to the same mount which today is where the Islamic mosque is and is also where the Jews want to build their temple (there is a tradition among the Jews that on this mount is the foundation stone where God made Adam) 3)What is the stones of fire? |
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7 | Please disprove rapture theory!? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41592 | ||
First of all. Read these passages... 1 thess 4: 13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 cor 15 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory? 56 The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law. 57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. The promise is clear. There will be a generation of saint that will not die (no one knows when this will happen) but instead they will be changed into a glorified body and they will rise and meet the Lord in the Air. The part I do not see in the scripture is when one who says he believes in a rapture of the Church says we disappear in the twinkling of an eye. It usually takes me at least 30 minutes to get him to agree that that is not what the text says. It says we are changed in a twinkling. There is no mention of becoming invisible to the world. This is so ingrained in the rapture believer that they often find it difficult to read the the text correctly and they go about saying "we will disappear in a moment" that is how powerful unbiblical teaching can be, We end up viewing the text we read with "doctrinal glasses on" we even see words that are not there. What difference does it make? My hope is not only in rising but a certain vindication of the righteous holy persecuted saints as they rise in glory and the world looks on in awe. |
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8 | Show in the Bible once saved always | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 41695 | ||
John, I am sure you have probably engaged in many conversations both on the internet and face to face with fellow christians that disagree with the theology you propose here. I am not wanting to debate it as there are enough of those threads already. But I just wanted to point out one of your verses. Eph 2:1-5 "we were by nature children of wrath" says that we were the children of wrath becuase of what we did. "we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath" so we see that the wrath of God is upon those that DO those things (not those that are born) Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. (because the do the sins he listed not becuase they are born) Coloss 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; (He gave them over becuase they chose to not retain God in their knowledge as an willful act of rebellion) Also the favorite of the Hyper Predestination view is that about Pharoah being made for destruction but they forget to read the source of which Paul is quoting and the story says Pharoah hardened his heart after the first encounter with Moses then after that it says God hardened His heart. The point is Yes God will harden a mans heart as judgement. This happens when a person continually chooses to do evil in the face of knowledge, that person can loose hope of salvation becuase they will never let the Holy Spirit convict them of sin. It is not as complicated as academic theologians wish it were. I am glad that I am predestined for glory, but not because God decided I would be saved and someone else would not, having nothing to do with how we live. (that would be to say that God decided he would create certain people to live life and then populate eternal hell where they could be in torment for all eternity) That is such a gross misinterpretation of the text about .. Rom 9:22-24 "What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? " It is understood as saying, "God does not just wipe out satan and sinners that will never repent, becuase He has a plan and in the End he will let these horrible sinners that kill christians and hardent their hearts not only to God but to any human decency continue living, until 1) His purpose is accomplished 2) some He is even having patience with enduring their hard heartedness until they come to repentance, because some will. |
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9 | What man in the NT was hanged by his toe | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 42069 | ||
:) Maybe it was in another book, like Foxes book of Martyrs. | ||||||
10 | Do you disobey this commandment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 42274 | ||
the sabbath days are detailed in the Law. Do a study on sabbath and you will see how there were mentions of sabbath rests of so many years etc. You may be misunderstanding the scripture. It says Jesus is NOT the shadow. The sabbath is the shadow Jesus is the BODY that cast the shadow. The shadow is not the REAL thing the Body that cast the shadow is the REAL thing. Jesus is the reality of the other shadows in the law including meat offerings, and feast days as well. These all point to what Jesus did for us and does for us in the Real spiritual realm and that is what you want to obtain. The reality of the temple in heaven is what you want to dwell in not one made with stones in Israel somewhere. The reality of the Heavenly sabbath is the one you want to enter into so that you might rest for eternity not the one that is only a symbol of the Heavenly one. You want to seek after and obtain the actual Presence of Christ and see Him face to face, and not just be satisfied with your knowledge of Him in this life only. We seek a better country, we seek a better city, we seek a better temple, we seek a better sabbath. A rest that lasts forever. We partake of the Lords supper. The bread and the wine is but a shadow of the real. The Real is invisible. The shadow is visible We partake of baptism, the water has no healing properties, the water is a symbol of the invisible reality. If you want to observe the seventh day as a symbol of your faith in resting from your own works and finding righteousness by faith in Christ death and resurrection then do so. God will only accept it if it is in faith however. But if you condemn your brother for thinking in more real terms of resting in Christ then you are not in faith and your sabbath keeping is not accepted. Offering gifts of religious service to the Lord whether it is sabbath keeping or feast keeping is between you and God. Only remember the saying "Hear O Israel" and do not apply what laws God commanded the Israelites to observe to all gentiles which were never commanded to keep such ordinances. There is more said about circumcision being an everlasting command than there is sabbath and yet no one contends for it becuase of the clear teaching in Acts when the apostles met to discuss this issue about the gentiles that were coming to the Lord needing to be circumcized, and all the OT verses were being used to declare it as an everlasting commandment, and the Holy Spirit said that the gentiles did not need to be concerned with circumcision. Now if you are Jew, there may be a good reason for questioning whether you should be circumcised but all controversy has ended on whether a gentile must be circumcised. So it is with sabbath keeping. You do it as a law, a commandment, then do it with faith, another gentile that never has kept sabbath in his life gets saved throught faith in Christ, has no such commandment in the New Testament, and unless you would join company with the Judaizers that Christ condemened then I suggest you leave the gentile converts alone and preach Jesus and Him crucified. God Bless you in your study of His word. |
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11 | Do you disobey this commandment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 42361 | ||
I will make one final point on keeping sabbath and then leave it to your own conscience. Define your idea of what the scripture teaches is lawfully keeping the sabbath. Not the many traditions of the Jewish scribes and lawyers that did not get their details from scripture, we know Jesus had plenty to say about them. But what does the scripture teach about lawfully keeping the sabbath. I will not attempt to convince a servant of God that he should or should not keep a law he wants to keep. But if you would keep it then by all means keep it according to the pattern shown in the book. If you depart from that pattern then you expose yourself as not one who is endeavoring to please God as all honest religous exercise would be, but you are demonstrating that you have some other agenda altogether foreign to sound doctrine. For no man can say I want to obey His commandments and then go about changing the details of the commandment given. This reveals a heart not of servitude but of an arrogant and self willed heart, willing to presumptiously change the law to fit his convienience. Ex 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. First of all you would have to form an Eccliastic government over your parishoners so that you might enforce the law open the law breakers. For to keep the sabbath yourself and yet not obey this part of the commandment is to keep part and break part. Ex 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day. Then you must also start no fires in your fireplaces or even cook on the stove that day. Would it be lawful to use the microwave? I think not. I could go on but I think the point is made. Keep the sabbath day but keep it holy. If you do work on that day you have broken it. If you think that attending a church is keeping it you make a mistake. If you drive to church you have broken it. |
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12 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 42972 | ||
Thanks John, I stand corrected. However Seiss cites his sources and other writers throughout the book and many of these date back centuries before. I do not have the book with me, But I remember highlighting the sources so that I could bring it up when I hear these comments that make it sound like saints did not expect a catching away prior to a tribulation before the 19th century. They may not have called it by the name "rapture" but they expected the event to occur. I will have to get the book and qoute the sources when I get a chance. I do not read of any saying we dissapear though. The idea of disappearing seems to be a recent doctrine. The idea of glorification is what I see in the ancients, and what I get in reading the Bible. I am not dogmatic about certain eschatoligical views that are not made clear to man. The approach to understanding it, or that which I have faith for, is that of basing these mysteries first of all on the Prophets of the OT. I am convinced that all the NT has it's foundation on the OT prophets. So if there is a mystery that Paul had about a generation of living saints being glorified without dying then it must bee hinted at somewhere in the OT though it certainly could be hidden until Jesus came and the Holy Spirit was poured out and men like Paul were called to reveal it. So if I search the OT first on all things related to the bodily resurrection I do seem to see different events. Some that explain a resurrection of only the righteous and some that mention both the wicked and the righteous. One of the passages that I think is foundational is Isaiah 26:19-21 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain. If I compare this to what Paul spoke about in 1 cor 15 I begin to get a revelation of the same mystery that Paul had. There is such an event awaiting the saints and according to Is 26 there will be a time of judgement while these saints are hidden. If we were to collect all the verses on this topic we can see why there is strong evidence for a pre-trib rapture. Though it does not really matter to me. My central focus is to live as though the Lord will come today and to be able to say I have run a good race. I believe one should live as though this was their last day on earth. This is a challenge, that requires great faith. I will admit I often have to get on my face before God and repent that I am cold and in need of being made hot again. May God Bless you in your study of His Word. |
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13 | Pretribulation or slightly after ? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 43007 | ||
One other note I would like to add. What if the understanding of the "glorification and rising of the saints" (see why we use 'rapture') was clearly laid out in the 19th century. Would that make it unbiblical? I mean do you think all things eschatological has been explained prior to recent time. Many things dealing with the book of Revelation have been ignored by teachers and expositors that were prolific in other areas but avoided the study of eschatology. So it stands to reason that there are many truths buried in the Scripture that were not dealt with by your favorite teachers. :) We all know (or at least the well grounded among us) that there is no room for strange new doctrines that contradict that which is well established such as salvation by faith alone etc... but there are many truths in the Bible, especially the prophets of the OT that have been ignored by the ignorant masses of the church who are too busy to study the Bible. Some of these truths are waiting to be rediscovered, not because they are new truths but becuase they have been ignored while men squabble over whether they have free will or not, or because they have been lost when once they were embraced prior to the age of the Catholicsim which lasted hundreds of years. We are still having to recover that fervency of spirit seen in the Book of Acts. Many a protestant church still wears the grave cloths of tradition that was inherited from their fore fathers but not from the Word of God. May God Bless you in your Study of His Word. |
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14 | eternal security | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 43075 | ||
But maybe it does make the list. In order to think you (not you but the I use you as the person that thinks this way) have access to heaven while addicted to a moral impurity, you would have to think your idea is true despite what the larger body of scripture seems to say (proud and presumptious), You would go about saying I am saved even though I have this addiction (lying tongue), You lead many weak minds to follow you in the "license to sin" in which they become twofold the child of hell by your example, (shed innocent blood), You get harder and less concerned about your addiction over time and think that you could probably be forgiven carte blanche for other faults so that you think less about them than you use to (deviseth wicked imaginations), you end up playing around with other sins that you were once delivered from (swift to run to mischief) and you go about claiming that you are still saved (false witness) and you argue the point creating cults and denominatioins to seperate from those that say it isn't so (sow discord among the brethren). At least it is worth considering. Tongue in Cheek :) |
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15 | eternal security | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 43122 | ||
See this is where we end up saying the same thing on both sides of the controversy. You say he was never saved in the first place. Why? Because the Spirit of God within you tells you that one that lives like that is not going to heaven. Well we end up at the same conclusion. Only I do not pass judgement whether he ever was part of the true church or not. However I do judge that he is not now part of the church; because of the life style. If we both agree with Paul that he that practices these things will not inherit the kingdom of God (and I think you know the verses I am referring to) then we are in agreement and there isn't any controversy at all. It is when men say things from the pulpit such as "I am telling you, you can live like hell, and still go to heaven, you just might not have any rewards when you get there" (I heard this preaced with my own ears) it is when these kind of statements are made or beleived that the brethren start into the divisions. And it must be that such a division take place when such statments are made, because God always causes the holy to reject such heresy. May God Bless You in your Study of His Word. |
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16 | Do you disobey this commandment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 43605 | ||
Matt 23:34 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: I am not a Jew so I was never under the law, but of the wieghtier matters of the Law, Judgement, Mercy and Faith, this I have been made alive to through the work of the Holy Spirit within which speaks of greater things than a day on the calendar. Those that keep the day on the calendar (and I have yet to recieve an answer from any of the sabbath preachers on how one keeps it) and yet do not walk in love toward those that do not would be straining the gnat and swallowing the camel. Or placing the importance on the wrong truth. |
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17 | Do you disobey this commandment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 43619 | ||
No. I do not observe the seventh day of the week as the Jews do. I was born again in jail. I read the Bible with no church influence for 30 months. Based on such passages as Acts 15 I fully understood that such things as sabbath and circumcision were not commanded for gentiles of the church but were prophetic of the heart issues. So I keep sabbath in truth not in outward formalism. I am not guilty of sabbath breaking becuase I rest in being made righteous by the finished work of the cross. The only work I do as a christian that God commands is a work called LOVE. It is not an ordinance or religious observance. This kind or work was described by James when he said that faith without works is dead and then proceeds to give and example of what kind of works he is talking about. He says if you see a man naked you should not say be warm and fed and not give him what he needs to be warm and fed. So works that God accepts are love works as we walk in faith being already made righteous by the finished work on the cross. If I go to church on Saturday and then go home. I do not see how this keeps sabbath. So please anyone that keeps sabbath as the Jews do tell me what you do to keep it. Is it all about what day you go to church? Well then I know many people that keep sabbath because they go to church on Saturday and on Sunday. Do they keep the sabbath? What if they go to church on Saturday just because they love to go so much? I mean what if they do not think about the sabbath, they are just going becuase they love to go to church? Can you comprehend this? Did you know that there are multitudes of holy saints going to church to fellowship with other saints, encourage one another in the Lord, study the Bible, hear the Bible preached, and worship in singing and pray together, who do not ever think of it as a exercise in religious duty, but rather as a walk of Love toward one another and toward God. As a matter of fact the only ones I know that go to church becuase they feel they "have to" to do their christian duty, are backslidden and indifferent towards God the rest of the week. Now living your own life 6 days a week and going to church on sabbath calling it "observing the Lords day" is something a lost person does. I live for God every single day. I worship and sing to the Lord every day. I read my Bible every day. I live each day with the same reverance and commitment to God that I do when I go to church. So what is this idea sabbath keeping people have about "giving it to the Lord" I don't understand. Are they saying they worship and sing to God on that day but not the other 6? Help me understand. What does it mean to sabbath keepers to keep the sabbath. I mean give me an example of keeping the sabbath in your life today. It might be that I am doing it and did not know it. I am often at church on a Saturday. Is it when you evangelize and win souls? I am often doing that on Saturday and every other day. Is it singing to the Lord? Praying? As I stated, I do that daily. Is it getting in a closet and communing with God? I think if you do that only on the sabbath it is a start, but if you want to go all the way in God you will need more than that. Help me understand what is "keeping sabbath" to those that believe you should observe Saturday in a special way. And let me point out that if you go to a relious meeting on Saturday but do not reach out to people in love as God leads you the rest of the week that your faith is without works and dead. James did not list sabbath keeping as a work that demonstrates your faith James listed works of love toward others such as feeding them and clothing them. So what I am saying is that if a man goes to church on Saturday but never does these kind of works that James mentions he would not qualify as having works. May God Bless You in your search for His Heart in the Study of the Word. |
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18 | Do you disobey this commandment? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 43641 | ||
Can you tell me how to keep the sabbath? | ||||||
19 | Can you give the places? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 45405 | ||
Galatians 1:8-9 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. | ||||||
20 | after death, right then, what? | Bible general Archive 1 | Scribe | 46829 | ||
If Christ is now seated at the right hand of God and Paul says to depart from the body is to be with Christ then we must go to heaven. Then when the time is come, we will have our bodies resurrected. That is what it looks like to me so far. Until I see otherwise. | ||||||
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