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1 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 209301 | ||
Yes I think so. I will tell you my reason why. I have studied the old testament in depth; not all of it but many books. Looking at the relationship that the Lord had with Israel I saw that they were blessed when they obeyed the Lord and they were cursed when they did not. Also looking at the pagan nations, I saw that the Lord punished them for their wickedness. Before the punishment the Lord always sent warnings. Plenty of them. There came a time though when the warnings stopped and the punishment came. Always the innocent suffered along with the wicked. The Lord has always had a remnant. He cared for them through the judgment. I do not have to fear because the Lord has promised that He will never leave me nor forsake me. In all circumstances I am to trust and obey Him. Bible passages: Genesis,Exodus,Leviticus,Numbers, Deuteronomy, 1 and 2 Samuel, 1 and 2 Kings, the minor prophets and the major prophets. Blessings, Val |
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2 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209309 | ||
That’s a rather harsh judgment sister, for you to cast upon the people of that region, not necessarily supported by anything specific. Your reference to scripture is vast and raises questions if I may put just a few of them forth here? Was Katrina a punishment or a warning? If punishment and delivered by the hand of God, what were the warnings? Since you believe Katrina was God acting upon New Orleans, would you please elaborate on how you have arrived at that conclusion, specifics? To say God sent Katrina to New Orleans as a punishment for sin kind of detracts from the fact that Christ already died for our sins does is not? In your affirmation that Katrina was delivered by God, you seem very much akin to Job’s friends and their thinking. In our fallen world, the saved and secure do die terrible deaths, sometimes due to tragedies out of the blue and unexplainable. Are all catastrophes to be considered divine judgment? You closed your post with the following: “I do not have to fear because the Lord has promised that He will never leave me nor forsake me. In all circumstances I am to trust and obey Him”. That does not keep travesty from falling upon the innocent for whatever reason God determines. As was pointed out in this thread, Luke 13 1-5: demonstrates that rather well. The entire book of Job demonstrates that. I feel the same as you do sister, He will never forsake me, that doesn’t eliminate the fact that tomorrow a tornado can fall upon me and take me out. That doesn’t eliminate the fact that a deer can run in front of my vehicle while I’m driving causing me to veer from the roadside to a horrible death in a ditch somewhere. What it leaves us with is that the time to seek God’s grace is now for tomorrow may be too late. In His grace we are secure, in His Son we are secure and that eternally. That doesn’t equate to everything being peachy while we are here. Katrina happened, most recently Ike happened. I personally know many devastated by Ike. I would not dare judge them because I just don’t know. Do you? What I would do is assure them that the travesty was surely allowed by God, because He is sovereign and that is undeniable, but to claim it was a warning or judgment, well I’m just not that sure and would actually need a whole bunch of convincing to actually believe that. Romans 2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We all need the grace of God. None of us are above that. For what ever reason God allows any specific tragedy, He allows it. As Christians, we’ll suffer loss, and some will suffer greatly. We suffer for Christ or simply because of what this fallen world throws upon us. But these shouldn’t be considered judgments should they? God of course uses such to strengthen us, but… I find the fact that after calamitous tragedies of this sort that there is such a mass returning to God, simply in the fact that people are searching for answers, very intriguing. But to say God has judged New Orleans, I’m not so sure about that. Just some questions and thoughts your post raised. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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3 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 209334 | ||
Hi WOS, I didn't mean to upset you. I was giving my sincere opinion. The questioner asked what do you think? I answered her honestly and gave my reasons why. Read the books of the bible I mentioned and watch the relationships between God and the various people and people groups. Then I will discuss it with you. When we get to heaven the Lord will let us know the correct answer. You believe you had the correct answer to the question. Go for it but just because I gave a different answer don't belittle me, brother. We had a long thread about lying didn't we so I told the truth and you are trying to crucify me. Chill as the young people say. Lets agree to disagree and lets drop this thread now since it is getting ugly. Val |
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4 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209364 | ||
Val, My questions were not meant to crucify you as you say. They were serious questions raised by your post. Please do not take them any other way. I’ve read many of your posts sister and you seem very well versed in Scripture and your dedication to the study of the Word is obvious, something you should be commended for. I’ll even admit, you are probably better read than I am, as I’m actively trying to learn more and more all the time. I was simply trying to drive home a point considering why disasters befall us and how important it is for us to look at them for what they are, and how it is supported with Scripture. I think the most important point to look at is that we know not when our so called number is up and we better be standing in God’s grace when that happens. For if we are not… You didn’t upset me this is just an issue I feel strongly about. Our sins have been paid for in full. Katrina, well that storm did nothing for me, directly, except to sadden me for those who suffered and lost and once again to bring to light just how thankful I’m God called me when He did. He’s perfect in everything He does, is He not? I’m not going to elaborate any further concerning this post as I think there are others who have stressed it should end for the reasons noted, as you have, and that is probably best. Please don’t think I’m out to get you Val. Far from it. You help to keep me thinking and digging into scripture and I thank you for that, I truly do. I hope that I at times do the same for you. That’s my aim after all and I know that is yours too. If I have poorly communicated my thoughts, it is me that should be apologizing to you. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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5 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Val | 209366 | ||
WOS, we're good, I appreciate you and thank you for your kind words. I learn much from you as well. I too wish I were a better communicator. Blessings - Val | ||||||