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1 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | G. Preston | 223625 | ||
CDBJ, Excellent analysis. Just to augment; ...'It is finished"...carries a mush greater meaning than His physical life is ...'finished'. I doubt that was the motovation for the statement. But, rather, His assignment, penalty-pre-determined, was...'finished'..completed....accomplished...achieved, mastered and sealed. I do have trouble with your concluding theory however. To suggest He experienced ...'spiritual'... death conflicts with the meaning of the second death because of sinfulness. He never sinned. I submit,separation of the spirit from the body does not signify a death process of the spirit. The spirit is eternal... be it saved or condemed, which the Bible refers to as the..'second death'. |
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2 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | ariel levin | 223639 | ||
Shalom G Preston You said, "I do have trouble with your concluding theory however. To suggest He experienced ...'spiritual'... death conflicts with the meaning of the second death because of sinfulness. He never sinned" I thought that that was what the sacrifice was all about. The Savior never sinned but He took our sins upon Himself and paid the FULL price, which includes the second death, the death of separation from the Father. The fact that He did not remain spiritually separated from the Father is also what procures our FULL, complete, eternal redemption. It is this second death, this eternal separation from God that we are saved from. This is our hope and confidence, not a trouble free life, not escape from physical death, but an eternity in the presence of our God. (Scripture to this effect have already been posted within this thread.) |
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3 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | G. Preston | 223646 | ||
Some would say there is an attempt at spin here. A no no. He sacrificed His physical life for your and my sin...not his. |
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4 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | ariel levin | 223647 | ||
G Preston Me spinning? I don't think so. The only thing I spin is a dreidle in hopes that it lands on gimmel!! :o) Return to the beginnings in Leviticus and study about the sacrifices (as they were a foreshadow of that which was to come) and you'll see that the sins of the worshipper were symbolically transferred to the animal by the laying on of hands. (Now we understand that at this point the whole thing had to be symbolism as man had no way to literally transfer his sins to anyone or anything.) But now God is here in the flesh, the Sacrifice can now be done as it was symbolized and be done once for all. For the sacrifice the Lord made for us to be viable He had to take on the sins of the world (and I don't think He had them all neatly bundled up in a grocery bag on the ground). No symbolism here, He took our sins into death with Him, broke the power of sin and rose triumphant. |
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