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1 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Integrity Electric | 223610 | ||
Wow, did I say all of that. Let me just say this. I believe that Christ sufferings were more than physical but spiritual as well. Agree or disagree I do not think that yours or my salvation is in question. I do not think that I have to point to scripture to prove this although I could. Remember our fight is not temporal but spiritual. I like to think under this mindset. One day we will see as we are seen and clearly and all mysteries will be taken away. Peace and Grace, David |
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2 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | CDBJ | 223617 | ||
When Christ was on the cross He in fact said “my God, my God why have you forsaken me”. We must remember that the New Testament was written in the Koine Greek and the word for death or, THANATOS, actually means separation. There are seven different types of death mentioned in Scripture and the one for sin is separation from God. Romans 6:23 (A) For the wages of sin is death; John chapter 19 tells us something that is often not notice by casual observation. John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. The word for finished in the Koine Greek come to us from the word, TETLESTAI. The etymology of this word is said to have originated in the slave market; signifying that the price agreed for a particular slave had been paid in full and the gavel was struck completing the transaction. The one holding the sale would holler out “TETLESTAI” there by sealing the transaction and showing the completion of that sale was over and finished. The price for sin, demanded by God, and paid for by God’s appointed one, Jesus the Christ had been totally paid for in full and nothing more is ever required! Now God can offer salvation to mankind as a free gift to man, paid for by the God Man Himself, Jesus. John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: The fact is that Jesus made this exclamation while He was “still alive in the flesh”, signifying that the total price for sin was paid, i.e. separation from God. It was “just after this” that He bowed His head and His soul separated from His body and He died physically: so one could say theoretically that He actually died twice while on the cross, spiritually and physically. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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3 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 223618 | ||
CDBJ, I'm very grateful that you brought Jesus' statement of it being finished up. I wish I had thought of it sooner. That certainly seems to debunk any mysterious punishment in hell being needed during those three days our Lord was in the grave. However, here is the verse: Joh 19:30 When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, "It is finished," and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. I think it is much more reasonable that since Christ said this phrase as He was actually dying, that he was referring to His physical death. That seems a much more reasonable understanding of this text than to speculate that He was signifying his spiritual death and seconds later his physical. In Christ, Beja |
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