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1 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 223589 | ||
Integrity, Let me add some further thoughts. Scripture clearly affirms that the physical sufferings of Christ very much were the atoning factor. Isaiah 53:5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions, He was crushed for our iniquities; the chastening for our wellbeing fell upon Him, and by His scourging we are healed. In Christ, Beja |
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2 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Integrity Electric | 223610 | ||
Wow, did I say all of that. Let me just say this. I believe that Christ sufferings were more than physical but spiritual as well. Agree or disagree I do not think that yours or my salvation is in question. I do not think that I have to point to scripture to prove this although I could. Remember our fight is not temporal but spiritual. I like to think under this mindset. One day we will see as we are seen and clearly and all mysteries will be taken away. Peace and Grace, David |
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3 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 223616 | ||
Integrity, Here is the entirety of your original post that began this thread: "Christ Death was only physical and only lasted three days. I hear people from all corners state that the Death of Jesus was a great sacrafice. Jesus knew that his death was only temporal. 1.Why is this death considered such a sacrafice. 2. What was the true sacrafice of Jesus." So you basically said that Christ's death on the cross was not the sacrifice for our sins. Asking what the true sacrifice was implies that his physical death for us was not the true sacrifice. You are going to make an assertion like that and now you say, "I do not think I have to point to scripture to prove this?" All I can say is "wow." Sir, you must always point to scripture, not the least when you try to debunk an orthodox view of the sacrificial atonement of Jesus. In Christ, Beja |
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4 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Integrity Electric | 223622 | ||
You are taking things out of context. I do side with you the the Bible is infallible but obviously you have more time than I to look up and site scripture. If you think that I was saying that the death of Christ did not provide atonement I would invite you to re-read what I had said, and you are way off by asserting that I am trying to "debunk" an orthodox view. I was just inviting you to think outside the box not outside of Gods word. Read on the comment by CDBJ He has showed a very good point!!! I think we have exhausted this thread and I look foreword to future questions and comments. By his word, David |
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5 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 223623 | ||
Integrity, 1.) How could I be taking it out of context when I cited the entire post? What more context could there be? 2.) If you do not have time to look up scripture and cite scripture, then perhaps you shouldn't try to teach/explain it? Perhaps using your time you DO have to read scripture rather than put forward theories. 3.) You DID strongly suggest that the PHYSICAL death of Christ did not provide atonement. I'm following your posts just fine. You seem very reluctantly to truely own up to anything you are saying. The facts remains that this thread was begun by you for the purpose of asking what the real sacrifice of Christ was since it wasn't the physical death. Anybody reading this can go back to the original post and see it is true. One of the great things of this forum is that you can't pretend you didn't say something. Your words are there for everybody to see. So you can't initiate a discussion like this and then feel mistreated because we ask you to back up ideas with scripture. Studying scripture is the entire point of this forum. Suggesting theories to think about in absence of scriptural support, or thinking outside the box in that sense, is groundless, unedifying, and dangerous. This is what I truely hope you understand from this thread. I hope you find this forum to be a fruitful place of digging into scriptures, not a place to think outside the box. In Christ, Beja |
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6 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Integrity Electric | 223624 | ||
I read the first sentence and did not read the rest. Find another fight I am through! | ||||||