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1 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Integrity Electric | 223584 | ||
Very good answer and I am with you. But did not it say in scripture "My God My God why have you forsaken me". Spiritual Death, In my mind is the absence from God. Was the Son of God separated from the Father? Would this not be more of a sacrifice than a physical death? Does not the Bible talk of two deaths. Did not Jesus say that a spiritual death was worse? I am not trying to see beyond scripture. There is plenty of scripture to back up what I am suggesting. No doubt this is for the adult in Christ and I am not trying to throw confusing heresies in to the pot. In His Name, Integrity |
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2 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | Beja | 223585 | ||
Integrity, You said that there is plenty of scripture to back up what you are suggesting. I encourage you to provide that scripture. Where does it say that Christ was seperated from the Father? I do not think that "why have you forsaken me?" implies that neccesarily. Where does scripture indicate that a spiritual death is a better sacrifice? Where does Jesus say that a spiritual death was worse unless you refer to the passage that says fear not those who can take your life but Him who after taking your life can cast you into hell? If that is the case, and you are calling being thrown into hell spiritual death, then we have a much more clear definition of what you are saying. If you mean to say spiritual death is not that, then that passage doesn't support you. However, you've yet to say anything of serious error yet, but let me share what is concerning me about your thinking. If you stray into error on this, your error is going to be concerning the sufficiency of Christ's attonement. That would be a very very serious error indeed. This is why I am nervous with somebody who is reasoning that the physical suffering, death, and ressurection of Jesus alone doesn't seem to be enough. Now certainly there were spiritual implications of Christ's death. His death was an outpouring of God's wrath in a way that a typical martyr's death, for example, is not. However, it is hard for us to say anything beyond that. In Christ, Beja |
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3 | Crusifixtion a sacrafice? John 3:16 | Bible general Archive 4 | lionheart | 223586 | ||
Beja, Dear brother thank you for you calm and even handed approach to this issue. Again I'll state that we cant go wrong when the structure and framework of our faith and believing is based on sound application of God's Word. A couple of scriptures here that also add clarity to this subject. Ro 8:1-4 and Heb 7:16 Our Lord met the righteous requirement of the law. In Him, lionheart |
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