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1 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | dodoy | 219943 | ||
John, Your note to Dhaniei says in part: "One thing that is perfectly clear is: Jesus rose on the first day of the week (Mark 16:1-2, 16:9)!". You quoted Mark 16:9 which contains the phrase "first day of the week". This phrase is translated from the Greek phrase "protei sabbatou". This Greek word "sabbatou" is translated into "sabbath" in these texts: Matt. 12:8; Mk. 2:28; 6:2; 16:1; Lk. 6:5; 13:14, 16; 14:5; Jn. 19:31; Acts 1:12 In Gen 29:27, 28, the word "week" is from the Greek "hebdoma", could you please show from Scriptures the validity of translating "sabbatou" into "week"? |
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2 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | stjohn | 219969 | ||
Dear dodoy, I am by no means a Greek or Hebrew scholar, therefor I'd be overstepping the boundaries of my learning to suppose to refute your research on the meaning of the word week. However, I think it would be prudent to except what those who are scholorly in those fealds of linguistics have translated the word(s) used in the autograf they saw fit to translate into the word week. Personally I don't know of a single Bible translation that uses any other interpretation of that passage of Scripture, do you? I take it that the word week means week and it has been used in contextualizing or making clear to readers what day of the week they were talking about i.e. the 'first day' of the week. Anyway, I hope that helps you. You know, Scripture really isn't all that hard to figure out doday. I think it would be helpful for you to take it as it is written and be gratfull that God has given us His word. To paraphrase an old well respected preacher: Father hasn't put the cookies on the top shelf where His kids cant reach them. John |
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3 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | dodoy | 219971 | ||
I admire your humility, John. This virtue is getting rarer nowadays. I do appreciate your suggestion that "it would be prudent to [accept] what those who are [scholarly in the field] of linguistics have translated..." I am really sorry I can't be prudent, for now. If I get her right, Dhaniei referred to the "geocentric theory" of the universe, a theory accepted by the whole world as true for almost 1400 years. Among the stellar minds that held on to this belief included Claudius Ptolemaeus, who published the theory and the famous Greek philosopher, Aristotle. But despite the belief of the whole world to the contrary, Copernicus proved the geocentric theory false and presented a new theory modern science uses today. Copernicus stood his ground even to the extent of being excommunicated. I don't lay any claim to being a Copernicus, far from it; it is just I found a scriptural basis for questioning what has been believed on for so long. What I need is a Biblical proof that has long evaded my own search, that would spell out the beans against the basis of my query. Isn't it also possible for the younger siblings to find the cookies their father placed on the top shelf but hidden by the older ones? |
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4 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | stjohn | 219977 | ||
What, pray tell, is your question? What, exactly is it that you believe to be false about the Scriptures? We are not here to question the veracity of the Bible, we are here to study what the Bible does say, not what it doesn't say. It looks to me that you have found evidence that is extra-biblical and not actually biblical, so what exactly is your 'scriptural' evidence? If questioning the veracity of the Bible is your addenda, then you might be standing some thin ice as far as keeping to the Terms of Use we all agreed to when we signed on to this forum. I've asked you a question, would you mind answering it? The passage you are speaking of speaks of the first day of the week, and there is no translation that I'm aware of that puts it otherwise. Are you aware of any translation of the Bible that translates it in some other way? Remember that the Bible isn't just written by men but it is also written by God and He is perfectly capable of guiding mens hearts and hands to have His Holy Word say what He wants it to say. As far as you saying that you cant be prudent, perhaps you should reconsider... you know, cant really never did nothin. John |
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5 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | dodoy | 219989 | ||
Hi, John. I am really sorry if you were not able to catch the question I’ve thrown. Perhaps, you were not even aware that I have thrown the ball. But you could not be blamed. It appears you were busy imagining I am casting doubts on the veracity of Scriptures. Sadly, I don’t. It’s not in my nature to do so, John. I am, however, relieved that Steve (screen name – srbaegon) was able to pick up the question you failed to catch. This he aptly showed in his post for me. What I am questioning, John, is the translation of some portions of the Bible from the languages it was originally written into the English language. I do honestly believe, as others do, that the original autograph of each of the book of the Bible was free from any error. The errors crept in, unintentionally perhaps, via the transcribing and translating procedures the Bible underwent. |
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6 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | DocTrinsograce | 219990 | ||
Dear dodoy, If there are particular questions regarding translation, one of the places you might direct your queries is bible.org There are a bunch of folks there involved in an English translation called the NET Bible. There are many people with advanced degrees in Biblical languages there. Consequently, you would be able to get a more learned response to questions of translation. Arguing it here, is less than beneficial to any of us. In Him, Doc |
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7 | Is there a reason to debate? | Bible general Archive 4 | dodoy | 219996 | ||
Dear Doc, Steve, and John; In this topic of sabbatou - week issue, I rest my case. Sorry to have offended you in any way. I did not intentionally mean to offend anybody here in the forum. Thanks for the inputs I have learned from all of you. Sincerely in Christ, dodoy |
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