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1 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | JimmyHen | 159900 | ||
Matthew 24:24 "for there shall arise false christs(muhammed is one) and false prophets(usama is one) and they shall show great signs and wonders(9-11 was one) insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect" ----- anyone disagree? |
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2 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 159901 | ||
Hi JimmyHen, Mohammed did not claim to be Christ, so he was not a false Christ. Since he did claim to be a prophet of God, and his writings disagree with scripture, he would in fact be a false prophet. Osama-bin-Laden, if he claims to be a prophet, (I do not know if he does or not), would be a false prophet. Since there was nothing "miraculous" about the terrorist attack on 9/11 (anyone can crash an airplane into a building), I do not believe this is what the Bible is talking about as "signs and wonders". Whenever this phrase is used it seems to be referring to the working of miraculous signs. In the Revelation, we are told the beast will cause fire to come from the sky, for instance. This will be a deceiving "sign and wonder". What did happen that was miraculous on 9/11 was that only a small fraction of the people who were supposed to be in the Twin Towers were actually there. Countless storys have been shared of "a changed dentist appointment", a "flat tire", "sudden headache", family illness", and so on. God spared many thousands on that day, in spite of what these criminals intended. I hope this helps! Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159915 | ||
Hi, Mark... Doesn't 1 John 4:3 suggest that denying the work, character, and authority of the Lord Jesus Christ is a form of anti-Christ? If not in the apocolyptic sense, at least in the literal sense? In Him, Doc |
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4 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 159921 | ||
Hi Doc, 1 John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are from God; for many false prophets have gone forth into the world. 2 By this know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. 3 And every spirit which does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not from God; and this is the antichrist which you heard is coming, and now is already in the world. (Quoted for referrence) I guess I am not familiar enough with the Koran to know if it denies that Jesus came in flesh. I do know that it denies that Jesus is the Only Begotten Son of God. As far as the "work, characture, and authority" of Jesus Christ, I don't see those things spoken of in this passage. Do you? This seems to me to be just speaking of the Incarnation of Christ. This is against the gnostic teaching that matter is evil, therefore God could neither create nor inhabit matter. Certainly, the spirit that denies that Jesus was incarnate is anti-Christ, in the "against Christ" sense of the word. Whether that spirit is "instead of Christ,", in that sense of "anti-Christ", I would have to answer based on specifics. 1 John 2:22 Who is the liar, except the one denying, saying that Jesus is not the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one denying the Father and the Son. This verse tells us that the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ is the antichrist. So antichrist denies the annointing, or the mission, of Jesus. Do you agree? Love in Christ, Mark |
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5 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | DocTrinsograce | 159940 | ||
Hi, Mark... The work of the Son is in His coming in the flesh. His character and authority stem both from God, and from the Holy Spirit. In addition, His authority is further attested to in the title of "Christ." We could draw further conclusions from the title of Son. Although I haven't dug into this epistle for quite a while, I am certain that if we drew from it all that it said about the Lord Jesus Christ, we could derive the full doctrine of Who He was and what He did. Especially, considering the primary reason that John wrote this epistle. Muhammad had some exposure to Arianists, so his understanding of Christology was pretty muddled. Long and short of it is that the Qur'an denies pretty much everything of the Scripture but the most superficial facts about our Lord. Such denials are, strictly speaking, anti (against) Christ. Which is in keeping with John's use of the term. (By the way, he is the only one in Scripture to actually use the word.) Sorry for giving such a hasty response. With a bit more time and thought, I'm sure we could get a clearer picture and establish the argument on even firmer footing. In Him, Doc |
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6 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | JimmyHen | 160016 | ||
no doc, you spoke correctly, the quran is a book that claims the Bible lies and claims Jesus is not the Son of God, and so forth, listen, anyone who denies this is of the spirit of the anti christ, and these are the very people we should be offending, and should never be afraid to offend, for they themselves are an offense to God, now, just a reminder, even as they are led by teh spirit of the anti christ and come upon our land to convert us to thier way of living, we should love them, no matter what, just as you would love your child no matter what, and just as God loves us no matter, so also should we love those who seek to destroy us, no matter what | ||||||
7 | tell me what you think | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 160028 | ||
Like Jesus loved those who sought to destroy Him? | ||||||