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1 | How many people will go to heaven? | Bible general Archive 3 | Hank | 176821 | ||
teresaa - Quoting from your post "...in the church today people believe in once saved always saved." .... True. I do. So does the church I'm a member of. But we believe in the doctrine of the eternal security of the believer, not because it is something we dreamed up, but because Jesus taught it (cf. John 10) and the Pauline letters confirmed it, as did the letters of John, Peter and Jude. ..... You continue, "but there are Bible verses that can prove that this is not true." ..... No there aren't, teresaa, unless they are wrenched from their context and given an eisegetical spin. Using the same level of biblical interpretation, I can give you a Bible verse, Genesis 6:14, that can "prove" beyond any doubt that you and I ought hasten to gather together some gopher wood right now and build ourselves an ark to shelter us from a forthcoming cataclysmic event of epic proportions. ..... It is not only possible but it is relatively easy to thumb through the pages of Scripture and pick out some "proof texts" that one can use to lend a measure of verisimilitude to almost any preconceived idea or half-baked doctrinal stance. The most dangerous doctrines on earth are those that seem true but, when weighed on the balance of God's word, are patently false. Man has no reason and can offer no excuse to stumble around in doctrinal darkness. He has the light of the word of God and instructions on how to use it: "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God as a workman who does not need to be ashamed, accurately handling the word of truth" (2 Timothy 2:15) ...... Won't you reconsider your position on this important doctrine in light of the full context of what Scripture actually teaches about regeneration and the eternal security of the believer? The regenerate believer can no more "lose" his salvation than he could save himself to begin with. Salvation is wholly of God. Man is as powerless to save himself as he is to keep himself saved. ....... What I have said in this post is intended as a didactic exposition of scriptural teaching and in no sense as a personal attack on you or anyone else. ...... May God bless your spirit and illumine your understanding as you study His blessed word! --Hank | ||||||
2 | How many people will go to heaven? | Bible general Archive 3 | teresaa | 176854 | ||
Hank I thankyou for your response.I didn't feel attacked in any way, how ever I do have some scripture to back up in why i believe in what i believe. We can choose to walk out of the will of God. When we put our faith in what Christ has done on the cross, we are forgiven of past sins,yes God will keep us as long as we want to be kept but He did not force salvation on us in the first place and He will not force us to continue to follow Jesus. We have choices and we can choose life or death.If we continue to sin we can expect fearful judgment fromGod HEB10:26-27.we do not earn salvation through works lest any man should boast,Phil 2:12 work out your own salvation in fear and trembling. Not that God's word is contrudicting for it is truth all truth but we have to keep ourselves from loosing our way getting cought up in the world, a friend with the world is an enemy of God. John15:6 we must remain in Him or we are like fire wood, again our choice to stay close to Him or not. Romans2:7-8 it is with persistence do we do good, therfore there must be a resistence to face that is working it out.Gal6:8-9 we deny our sinful nature to please Him or we reap destruction. in Romans 11:17-24 we see that God did not spare His chosen people He will not spare us. He will show us kindness provided that we continue in Him.There are some more verses to support in what I believe, besides i would rather live with the belief that there is a chance to loose my salvation it keeps me in the fear of the Lord and as well as vigelint. Do you remember Samson was close to God, but the world, or should i say Delilah stole him away and Samson didn't even realize that God had left him.It has been a real plesure Hank to talk to you. God Bless | ||||||
3 | How many people will go to heaven? | Bible general Archive 3 | kalos | 176861 | ||
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Phil 2:12 Indeed Phil 2:12 does say "work OUT your own salvation". It does not say "work FOR your own salvation". "We have to keep ourselves"? Salvation is of the LORD. The LORD does the saving. The LORD does the keeping. We cannot and do not keep ourselves. |
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