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1 | rapture or tribulation? | Bible general Archive 3 | SuQ | 175266 | ||
I am a long-time Believer in the rapture. Recently, I have been challenged with the idea that believers would endure some if not all of the tribulation. I have researched this extensively and am looking for comprehensive understanding not the usual 'pat' answers. (My own arguments: 1. The last trumpet is toward the end of the trib. 2. Noah was protected from destruction. 3. God is cyclical so where in the Word does it show that God's people escaped from past cataclysmic world destruction other than Noah. 4. Christ's second coming is to pour out His wrath on the world. 5. We are not appointed to wrath.) Any input? | ||||||
2 | rapture or tribulation? | Bible general Archive 3 | mark d seyler | 175267 | ||
Hi SuQ, There has been a lot of discussion on the rapture, which you can read by entering "rapture" in the search box. This will show you thousands of words which have been posted on this site. I believe the pre-trip rapture model, having studied it myself extensively. I would be happy to discuss this with you, on this forum. As there are many who do not believe this view, if you wish, we could discuss this over email (markdseyler@yahoo.com). Concerning the similitudes in the Scriptures: During the flood, Noah was divinely protected, remaining on the earth, during the time of worldwide judgment. Enoch was removed prior to the judgment. Noah is considered similar to Israel, which will be divinely protected during the Great Tribulation. Enoch is considered similar to the church, which is removed prior to that time. There is another interesting passage, in Daniel 3. King Nebuchadnezzar constructs an image of gold, and commands everyone to worship it, upon pain of death. Three Hebrews refuse, and are cast into the furnace of fire. They are divinely protected during this experience. But the interesting question to ask is "Where is Daniel?" Certainly he would not have worshipped the image. Presumably he was out of town. But the Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego become similar to Israel, divinely protected, while Daniel is as the Church, absent. Regarding the trumpets, if the feasts are being celebrated during the millenium, trumpets will continue to be blown, and that aside, can we say that the 7th trumpet in the Revelation will be the last one ever sounded? So we are looking for a series, and the last of the series. There is another series in Numbers 10:1-4, the first calls one side to readines, and the last calls the other side to readiness. So when the last trumpet sounds, the entire camp is to prepare to move. The coming wrath of God is the only worldwide judgment since the flood, so we really don't have any other examples. Points 4 and 5 I agree with you completely. Let me know what direction you would like to go. Love in Christ, Mark |
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