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1 | Age of Miracles - Past or Present | Bible general Archive 2 | Phil12123 | 126089 | ||
Rowdy, thank you for your more complete explanation of where you're coming from. If you stated it before, I missed it. Having said that, I am now puzzled. You start out saying we are living in the age of miracles today, but then you conclude by saying miraculous powers today "must be from another source [other than God]." Well, the only other source of miraculous powers is the devil or demons, right? So, your bottom line is, unless you can be convinced by being shown someone who performs the miracles you described, all miracles today are demonic, right? And what if you were indeed shown such miracles? With your presuppositions, how would not still conclude that such miracles "must be from another source"? Help me out here, if I'm misconstruing what you have said. Phil |
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2 | Age of Miracles - Past or Present | Bible general Archive 2 | Rowdy | 126090 | ||
I have to apologize. I re-read my post and I guess I wasn't perfectly clear. What I meant to say is that I do believe in miracles from God in today's world but he dispenses them at His discretion, probably with some subtlety but directly to the recipients. You have probably heard of the person who goes to the doctor and gets the proverbial and horrible final briefing from that doctor about his having terminal cancer and he's got a short time to live, maybe a few months. Six months later, he shows back in the doctor's office and low and behold the cancer is in complete remission and now it looks like the person will live for several years. That's a pretty clear miracle. Or the person that walks away from a car accident when the car looks like a crumpled up paper wad. Yes, my friend, we do live in an age of miracles but directly from God to the recipient, no human 3rd party intervening or channeling God's power like in the first century with Apostles. I'm saying that God wants us to graduate from this love affair with this physcial world and learn to prefer His Spiritual World BUT to wait for His calling us Home to get away from this world. We must re-read 1 Cor 13 and learn to prefer love, God like love, unconditional love for our fellow man and for our God and Father and we should do so in preference to the other Spiritual Gifts that God bestows on us. I'm convinced that he never meant for man to be able to dispense these kinds of miracles after the Apostles died along with those on whom they laid their hands. Otherwise, in this world of extreme spiritual immaturity, people would end up worshipping such beings like they tried in the first century. No, our God wants us to come to Him, based on our faith and not on what we see and experience. If we were to actually experience a miracle at the hands of a mere man like the first century then it lessons our faith and our dependence on Him. I hope this clears up this misunderstanding. God bless. Rowdy |
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3 | Age of Miracles - Past or Present | Bible general Archive 2 | Phil12123 | 126093 | ||
I see your point, but don't you think God knew from the beginning of the Apostolic age that to give certain members in the Body "the gifts of healing" (1 Cor.12:9) or "the working of miracles" (v.10) might result in "worshipping such beings," as you say? Is the solution, remove the gift to avoid such improper worship, or instead, give immediate and adequate rebuke and counsel, as Peter did in Acts 10:26? Should the eye be blind so that it does not receive too much appreciation? I fear this thinking leads to the total removal of ANY man having ANY particular gift that is supernatural or miraculous, including knowledge and wisdom. That's like shooting the dog because he may have fleas. Phil |
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