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1 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | Suede67 | 96347 | ||
Hey Dairy Leader, …Jesus and the Bible in general tells us in the end days that there will be false christ and false doctrine,… Yes absolutely! Preterism doesn’t deny these things. All those things happened in the first century. …what is a generation to God , its not stated in the scriptures… Doesn’t have to be. Jesus is talking to his mortal disciples at the Olivet Discourse. It is HE that is telling THEM that a generation wouldn’t pass til He came back. ….we cant pretend that revelations isnt for us,… It is, BUT not in the way you are thinking. You want it to be written specifically for you living now, as if John wrote it and put Don’t open til xyz number of years passes. This isn’t the case though. Revelation was written to people that were alive in the first century, actually, all the NT was! Imagine as if you are reading someone else’s mail. Yes it may speak to you, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t speak to the original audience. AND, it was probably more apt to the original audience. …if you gave all authority to the Bible, then you wouldnt try to alter it by false doctrine that you are telling these people…. I DO give full authority to the Bible, that’s why I’m a Preterist. …Revelation is for us, daniel,Isa, ezk, and all other books that prophecy of the rapture and the battle of Armageddon... For us to look back on and see how God did exactly what he said he would do. With the dating in Daniel, we KNOW Daniel wasn’t written for us. Daniel’s 70 “weeks” are one after the other, they are NOT separated at the 69th and 70th. That is an a false doctrine to say they are. It isn’t Biblical. ….We are supposed to use scripture from the Bible here to prove our positions, as far as Im concerned you haven’t… Well, I’m sorry you feel that way, but I do use the Bible. ...And I feel sorry for those who believe it are going to be disappointed when Jesus raptures the Church… I feel sorry for those who are going to be disappointed in an event that won’t ever happen again. …. I pray always for Israel, we are the wild branch,, grafted into the vine, not Isreal, they are Gods chosen people, we are adopted into the family of God Israel are Gods Children…. I pray for Jews too, but the modern nation of Israel is little more then a humanist state, that will continue to have problems till they recognize Jesus. Israel becoming a state means nothing. Saying Jews are saved by their flesh is a heresy. One is saved by Grace and only justified via faith, not flesh. Take care, SUEDE |
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2 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | DarcyA | 96357 | ||
....For us to look back on and see how God did exactly what he said he would do. With the dating in Daniel, we KNOW Daniel wasn’t written for us. Daniel’s 70 “weeks” are one after the other, they are NOT separated at the 69th and 70th. That is an a false doctrine to say they are. It isn’t Biblical. For what you believe the 69 and 70th week has to be seperated. (32AD and 70AD lets see there are 38 years seperateing not 7) And yes the Bible does seperate the two. Read Danial 9 again. You can keep saying your pertist all you like. Most people on here are Christians waiting on that blessed hope. Jews will be saved when they see Christ come back and see his pearced hands. Zech 12:10 I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn. Before you look at that verse and say hay look its another poem. Don't bother because I know that is what your going to say. In Christ, Darcy |
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3 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | Suede67 | 96675 | ||
Hi Darcy, ….For what you believe the 69 and 70th week has to be seperated. (32AD and 70AD lets see there are 38 years seperateing not 7) And yes the Bible does seperate the two. Read Danial 9 again…. Actually it doesn’t. Daniel was told things in a linear timeline, without gaps. He was told that they would be coming out of exile, the temple would be rebuilt, the Messiah would come, die, tribulation, and his return. This alone makes modern Talmudist Judaism invalid. Many Christians today are under Dispensationalism, which to work must fit a now 2,000 year gap between the Messiah and his second coming. The problem is, this isn’t Biblical. ... Most people on here are Christians waiting on that blessed hope... I know they are, and it’s unforunate that Premillennialism and Dispensationalism are still popular now. …Jews will be saved when they see Christ come back and see his pierced hands…. No. Jews will be saved when they believe. ….Zech 12:10 I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn. Before you look at that verse and say hay look its another poem. Don't bother because I know that is what your going to say….. Actually that’s not what I was going to say. That event DID happen. This is one of quite a few prophecies about God pouring out his spirit on the people. This was fulfilled at the Day of Pentecost, read the beginning of Acts. Take care, SUEDE |
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