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1 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | DAIRYLEADER5 | 96180 | ||
Suede, Jesus and the Bible in general tells us in the end days that there will be false christ and false doctrine, what is a generation to God , its not stated in the scriptures, we cant pretend that revelations isnt for us, if you gave all athority to the Bible, then you wouldnt try to alter it by false doctrine that you are telling these people.Revelations is for us, daniel,Isa, ezk, and all other books that prophecy of the rapture and the battle of armageddon.We are supposed to use scripture from the Bible here to prove our positions, as far as Im concerned you havent.It seems that if this is preterist doctrine, I wish nothing to do with it.And I feel sorry for those who believe it are going to be disapointed when Jesus raptures the Church. I pray always for Isreal, we are the wild branch,, grafted into the vine, not Isreal, they are Gods chosen people, we are addopted into the family of God Isreal are Gods Children. DL5 | ||||||
2 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | Suede67 | 96347 | ||
Hey Dairy Leader, …Jesus and the Bible in general tells us in the end days that there will be false christ and false doctrine,… Yes absolutely! Preterism doesn’t deny these things. All those things happened in the first century. …what is a generation to God , its not stated in the scriptures… Doesn’t have to be. Jesus is talking to his mortal disciples at the Olivet Discourse. It is HE that is telling THEM that a generation wouldn’t pass til He came back. ….we cant pretend that revelations isnt for us,… It is, BUT not in the way you are thinking. You want it to be written specifically for you living now, as if John wrote it and put Don’t open til xyz number of years passes. This isn’t the case though. Revelation was written to people that were alive in the first century, actually, all the NT was! Imagine as if you are reading someone else’s mail. Yes it may speak to you, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t speak to the original audience. AND, it was probably more apt to the original audience. …if you gave all authority to the Bible, then you wouldnt try to alter it by false doctrine that you are telling these people…. I DO give full authority to the Bible, that’s why I’m a Preterist. …Revelation is for us, daniel,Isa, ezk, and all other books that prophecy of the rapture and the battle of Armageddon... For us to look back on and see how God did exactly what he said he would do. With the dating in Daniel, we KNOW Daniel wasn’t written for us. Daniel’s 70 “weeks” are one after the other, they are NOT separated at the 69th and 70th. That is an a false doctrine to say they are. It isn’t Biblical. ….We are supposed to use scripture from the Bible here to prove our positions, as far as Im concerned you haven’t… Well, I’m sorry you feel that way, but I do use the Bible. ...And I feel sorry for those who believe it are going to be disappointed when Jesus raptures the Church… I feel sorry for those who are going to be disappointed in an event that won’t ever happen again. …. I pray always for Israel, we are the wild branch,, grafted into the vine, not Isreal, they are Gods chosen people, we are adopted into the family of God Israel are Gods Children…. I pray for Jews too, but the modern nation of Israel is little more then a humanist state, that will continue to have problems till they recognize Jesus. Israel becoming a state means nothing. Saying Jews are saved by their flesh is a heresy. One is saved by Grace and only justified via faith, not flesh. Take care, SUEDE |
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3 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | Taleb | 96356 | ||
SUEDE, your posting in which you quoted Dairy Leader, “…what is a generation to God , its not stated in the scriptures…” and then added your comment: “Doesn’t have to be. Jesus is talking to his mortal disciples at the Olivet Discourse. It is HE that is telling THEM that a generation wouldn’t pass til He came back.” If I may, allow me to add some meat to your argument. You are correct in your conclusion about the fulfillment of Jesus’ words. But Scripture DOES state what He meant by generation. Throughout Scripture, a generation is 40 years. How long did the Israelites wander in the wilderness? One generation. Time for all the second generation to take the place of the first – 40 years. How long after Jesus uttered those words to His disciples about “this generation”? 40 years. Some, to fit their misconstrued doctrine, attempt to change the meaning of that word, in the verse we are referring to, to mean “race”. No where in Scripture is that same word used as even a concept of “race”. It is only used as Jesus meant it to be. Matthew 1:17 uses the same word. If the word translated generation really meant “race” (and, of course it doesn’t), that could only mean that there were 14 “races” from Abraham to David, 14 more between David to the exile, and 14 more races between the exile and Christ. Appreciate your Scripturally-based comments. Keep ‘em rolling. Taleb |
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4 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | DarcyA | 96359 | ||
Yes lets all twist scripture to for it to mean what I want it to. Not a peterist doesn't know about the mount of transfiguration. They say there is no gap in the 70 weeks. But they must believe in that gap to make their therory work. Everytime Israel is mentioned it should be changed to Church because that is what God really meant. We by some miraclious way have gotten our DNA changed so we are now Abrahams decedents. I could keep on throwing verses out there which I have done in the past but they get thrown back saying God didn't really mean that. Appreciate your Scripturally-based comments. Keep ‘em rolling. Keep 'em rolling away from the context and the true meaning. |
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