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1 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | Suede67 | 95959 | ||
Darcy, “When God promises Abraham Isaac and Jacob the land of Israel He wasn't serious” God made promises and established covenants. Promises are based only on God, but covenants involve at least two groups, namely God and another party. A lot of the things that were to happen for the Israelites were based solely on them remaining faithful to God. They didn’t do this all the time, and suffered the consequences. When God sent his son, as promised, a lot of Jews refused to believe in him. They are therefore NOT a part of the New Covenant. “When Jesus said every eye would see Him, he didn't mean it.” He did, but you desire this to be fulfilled with visual confirmation. Not so. This is prophetic language, quite common in the OT. Since the world is round, it is an utter impossibility for all eyes to visually see him. “When The prophets of God said there would be peace on Earth and the curse would be lifted it was figurative.” Believers DO have peace, the curse HAS been lifted. To say otherwise is blasphemous because it says that we are under the curse of death, that Christ didn’t finish what he set out to do. “Now I would advise you to read Matt 25 about the sheep and the goats. And ask the Holy Spirit to direct you if you know lord as your personal savior. And if you do you will see some truth. Also let me warn you and other preterist this is coming from my heart People who think God changed His mind on the promises to Israel and are now given to the church.” Well, I do appreciate your concern, and you are sort of on the right track. Israel, as in ethnic Jews CAN in fact take part in the New Covenant and in the Promises of God. HOWEVER, they must believe in Christ. That’s key. It’s in error to separate the Jews and the Church. If Jews believe, they are the Church, along with us gentiles. But note, gentiles were grafted into the promises of God. How? By belief!! Jews/Israel can still partake in the promises, BUT they must be believers in the Son. “ And Isreal is No more Gods Chosen and you hurt the apple of God's eye I would not want to be in your shoes.” It’s ok my friend, I shake not in my boots. Israel as a single ethnic nation is not God’s chosen people anymore. Jesus plainly says that he is going to remove the kingdom of God from them and give it to a nation bearing fruit. That “nation” is all believers. Matthew 21:43-45 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people, producing the fruit of it. "And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust." When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard His parables, they understood that He was speaking about them.” “Remember this Verse every day of your life, Genesis 27:29 “May peoples serve you, And nations bow down to you; Be master of your brothers, And may your mother's sons bow down to you. CURSED BE THOSE WHO CURSE YOU, AND BLESSED BE THOSE WHO BLESS YOU." Yes, excellent verse. Darcy, don’t you know that that verse is about you? Who is it that blesses or curses nations? It’s the believers in God. Who are they? The Christians! Both Jewish and Gentile in ethnicity, but they are believers in Christ. I HIGHLY recommend you go over Paul’s epistles, it will clear up a lot of this chaos. Here a few verses so you can see what I mean. Romans 4:13-16 “For the promise to Abraham or to his descendants that he would be heir of the world was not through the Law, but through the righteousness of faith. For if those who are of the Law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise is nullified; for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, there also is no violation. For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, Gal 3:29 “And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.” ” Remember it was Jews who gave us the Word of God Who a lot died for here faith. It was a Jew that gave us gentiles the Gospel. It was a Jew that that died an undeserving death and took our place which we are deserving of. “ Truly. Which is why it is ultimately a pity that many ethnic Jews do not believe. ”The reason I am saying all this is because I don't know how you can have this view of 70AD Christ returning and not think of the Jews have lost their promises God almighty made to to thier forefathers. “ Christ returning fulfilled and sealed those promises, it didn’t cause them to be lost. Take care, SUEDE |
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2 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | DarcyA | 95960 | ||
Complete heresy! Look at the covenant made with Abraham. Abraham fulfilled his part. He left home! and How do you get poetic language EVRY EYE WILL SEE HIM? Its Poetic because all you are doing is twisting the Word of God to fit your needs. Last time I checked This world is not at peace. Christians are STILL persecuted and killed. And you say that is peace? What happen September 11, 2001 is Peace? The Nuclear Weapons is a sign of peace? Tell me what war is then? We will kill 40,000,000 babies because there is peace on earth? The bible states they will learn war no more! It is not poetic if it is poetic its a bad poem. | ||||||
3 | The second coming of Jesus | Bible general Archive 2 | Suede67 | 95970 | ||
Darcy, “Complete heresy!” If it is then it will be quite simple to disprove Biblically. “ Look at the covenant made with Abraham. Abraham fulfilled his part. He left home!” I agree 100 percent. He was faithful to God, and we as the faithful reap the rewards that God promised and honored to Abraham. “How do you get poetic language EVRY EYE WILL SEE HIM? Its Poetic because all you are doing is twisting the Word of God to fit your needs.” Sorry my friend, that’s the way it is. There’s no twisting here. “Last time I checked This world is not at peace. Christians are STILL persecuted and killed. And you say that is peace? What happen September 11, 2001 is Peace? The Nuclear Weapons is a sign of peace? Tell me what war is then? We will kill 40,000,000 babies because there is peace on earth?” Hmm, does the Bible state a universal peace, even for non believers? No, of course it doesn’t. There will ALWAYS be dogs outside the city. Please research that further. “The bible states they will learn war no more! It is not poetic if it is poetic its a bad poem.” Well, art is subjective. Take care, SUEDE |
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