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1 | Accountable for every commandment? | NT general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 66450 | ||
Greetings Charis, In Eph 2:8 we are told, FOR BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED THROUGH FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD. Gal 3:2-RECEIVED YE THE SPIRIT BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW, OR BY THE HEARING OF FAITH? Gal 3:14-THAT THE BLESSING OF ABRAHAM MIGHT COME ON THE GENTILES THROUGH JESUS CHRIST; THAT WE MIGHT RECEIVE THE PROMISE OF THE SPIRIT THROUGH FAITH. Eph 3:17-THAT CHRIST MAY DWELL IN YOUR HEARTS BY FAITH. We are saved by faith. Does this mean we are saved by faith without repentance? Not at all. We must repent of our sins, or there is no salvation. For it is written, EXCEPT YE REPENT, YE SHALL ALL LIKEWISE PERISH-Lk 13:3. Does this mean that we are saved by faith only, and we never need to confess Jesus publicly? Not at all. We should confess that Jesus is (the only Hope) of our salvation to everyone that asks us. If we are ashamed of Jesus, He will be ashamed of us at the judgment. So we may ask, "What about baptism?" I believe when a person is lead to the Lord, that baptism be included, not excluded. And if it's not possible to be baptized at that time, then at the earliest time avaiable. God bless, may you continue to be an extention of God's hand to the people in the land you live in. |
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2 | Accountable for every commandment? | NT general Archive 1 | charis | 66452 | ||
Dear inmyheart, Greetings in the name of Jesus! My friend, I agree with you that repentence is necessary for salvation. To me, repentance is an integral and inseparable part of faith in Christ Jesus. It is impossible to be under the Lordship of Christ without repentance. Grace is extended to those that understand their humility, their lowly stature, their sinful nature, when confronted with the awesome glory of God. Well said. As to water baptism, I agree that it is important, VERY important. But not for salvation. To facilitate and enhance our sanctification during this earthly journey. All three baptisms seem to be exactly what the root word implies; washed, cleansed, whelmed. I believe that sanctification and salvation are closely linked, sometimes the distinction is blurred. But the 'justification' aspect of salvation is clearly 'by faith (alone) through grace (alone). Now some completely justified (saved) saints did some really foolish (sinful) things that obviously did not please God. But He, as a loving Father, did not revoke the status of righteousness from these men. In the same manner, we see that God may strongly desire men to do a certain thing or live a certain way, but He will not deny them for lack of it! I believe that water baptism falls into this category. I water baptism necessary for salvation (justification)? No. Does God want every believer to be water baptized? Yes. "According to the grace of God which was given to me, like a wise master builder I laid a foundation, and another is building on it. But each man must be careful how he builds on it. For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw, each man's work will become evident; for the day will show it because it is to be revealed with fire, and the fire itself will test the quality of each man's work. If any man's work which he has built on it remains, he will receive a reward. If any man's work is burned up, he will suffer loss; but he himself will be saved, yet so as through fire." 1 Corinthians 3:10-15 NASB/ I think that the above passage clearly speaks of the proper realtionship of (God-pleasing) works to salvation. They are separate issues. But such works are not for nil, and dead works are not acceptable to God! This speaks of reward, and loss of reward according to the manner of our walk in Christ Jesus. But there is no fear of loss of salvation! Praise God! In Christ Jesus, charis |
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3 | Accountable for every commandment? | NT general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 66454 | ||
Greetings Charis, We have already seen that believing on Jesus is an absolute essential for salvation. We have already seen that repentance is an absolute essential for salvation. Now the question, "What about water baptism?" There is much debate on this subject. One of the main subjects to be considered in this discussion is that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ "apart from all works." This statement is absolutely true. It is written, Eph 2:8,9-FOR BY GRACE ARE YE SAVED THROUGH FAITH; AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELVES: IT IS THE GIFT OF GOD: NOT OF WORKS, LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST. Now the questions arise: "Is calling on the name of the Lord classified as works?" "Is repentance classified as works?" "Is water baptism classified as works?" The answer to all three of these questions is no. No where in the Bible is calling on Jesus, repentance, water baptism, or reading the Bible classified as a form of works. Those that relate these things to works or the works of the Law appear to be greatly misled. One might say that repentance can certainly be very hard work, or very difficult. There are certain things or areas in each of our lives where the flesh does not want to repent, but never does the Bible classify repentance as works. It is the same for baptism. Water baptism is a command for all that repent and believe. It is not classified as "works." Hearing or reading the Bible might be considered as work or a chore by some, yet it is never classified as "works" in relation to working or earning your way into heaven. We need to hear and read God’s Word to learn more about God. Faith comes by hearing God’s Word. Thank you for your response, I have enjoyed your postings. God bless! |
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4 | Accountable for every commandment? | NT general Archive 1 | charis | 66470 | ||
Dear inmyheart, Greetings in the name of Jesus! My friend, I have read and reread your post, and can't help feeling that you want to say something, but aren't saying it. (?) Perhaps I am just reading too deeply, but it seems to me that you consider our salvation to be decided upon the sum of our walk with Christ. For instance, the Bible speaks of repentance in ways. The initial repentance is turning away from our sinful nature and turning toward God. This repentance is part of saving faith, and is also concurrent with calling upon the name of the Lord (for the first time). From this starting point we are saved. (Actually, God knew us from before our birth, so from His standpoint, we are saved even before we are 'apprehended' by God and respond to His calling!) After this 'meeting' with the Lord, we continue to call upon his name, to exercise the gift of faith, and repent from our sinful ways. But these subsequent actions are not for 'continued' salvation, but to serve the Lord, to perfect our lives, to please our Savior. I believe that water baptism is part of the latter sanctification, not the former justification. If we say that we must be baptized, repent daily, call upon His name daily, and read the Bible daily in order to 'preserve' our salvation, then we indeed begin to have a 'performance' based salvation. As I have said before, we are saved by grace (alone) through faith (alone). Nothing further is required to 'preserve,' 'validate,' or 'update' this salvation. However, obedience to the commandmants of the Lord Jesus pleases our God, and produces fruit and reward. This reward does not produce 'more-saved' saints. :-) It just pleases God. This, to me, is good enough. Well, it's late. Good night. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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5 | Accountable for every commandment? | NT general Archive 1 | inmyheart | 66492 | ||
Charis, The final proof or evidence of salvation is a person’s fruit after repenting, believing on Jesus, and water baptism. Yes, it's late. God bless |
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6 | Accountable for every commandment? | NT general Archive 1 | charis | 66616 | ||
Dear inmyheart, Greetings in Jesus' name! With all due respect, this sounds like water baptism is a requirement for salvation, repenting and believing on Jesus are separate events or actions, and that we must produce fruit until the end of our days or we're 'toast.' I would not know where to begin (or end!) trying to define 'fruit' if it means 'sum.' My friend, I respect your opinion, and hope that your definitions are not as severe as they sound, but this is just too terribly close to 'performance-based salvation' for my taste. As a shepherd, I know more about the sheep entrusted to my care than anyone (except maybe my wife!). I can't think of a one, including myself, that would 'stand muster' if the Inspector were 'counting merits and demerits.' I believe we are saved by grace through faith, even though God knew the missteps we would make. Well, enough said. I'm sure you understand my stance. Blessings and peace to you and yours. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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