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1 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 35737 | ||
I have to agree with you that the pretrib. position would be my choice if I had anything to do with it, but that is not the case. The Bible says what it says weather I like it or not. I think that believers want to believe everything in the Bible, but when we get a preconceived thought in our heads it is hard to understand or break the pattern to let a new thought in even if the old thoughts are proven defective. Let me give you an example which we have been discussing, Matthew chapter 24 in contrast to I Thess. 1 Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Now if we compare this verse with the following verse the pretrib, position looks rather obvious, or does it. 1 Thes. 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come. Both of these verses are true but without using all of God's word to establish the timing of the two verses mentioned one might come up with only one solution. The problem in question is in two different kinds of trouble; one is called the great tribulation and the other is called wrath. When we try to make them both the same that is where the fly gets in the soup. Just analyzing the words of Christ, in reference to the severity of the great tribulation, it couldn't be the wrath of God because there was a time that was worst then this; when God destroyed the whole world by water, yet Jesus said that since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. This is a definite reference to a tribulation that believers will have to face and it is not coming from God because he is going to stop it for the elect's sake, he isn't the cause but he sure is going to put a hault to it. Then there are those that will say yes, but the rapture has already taken place and those are the elect of the tribulation. I tell them if that's the case it still couldn't be God's wrath because ALL believers have the same promise, that believers will not suffer God's wrath; even the 144,000 thousand are sealed for protection before God's wrath takes place. |
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2 | tribulation vs. wrath | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 35754 | ||
CDBJ; I couldn't agree with you more... Big difference between the tribulation, and the wrath of God which are yet future but separate events. But thank God we are delivered from the wrath to come. God Bless you zach† |
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