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1 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 100047 | ||
[On this foundation, infants must be members of the new covenant if they are to be saved. God has not said how He has achieved this end.] Sure He has, John. Does not this verse imply that: 1 John 3:5 [NASB-u] "......in Him there is no sin. Now lets put that with His words in Mark where says this and make no acceptions or exclusions given the age: Mark 10:14 (NASB-U) But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Again, may I remind you that there was nothing to hinder that priviledge the children had. No law....no sin imputed. They couldn't be denied for such is the Kingdom made of...Why read into it "stuff" that's not there. [Nevertheless, I believe that He has made a way for those who were incapable of actually sinning themselves, but who were subject to judgement because of imputed sin.] Ok but you offer nothing because there is nothing other than "no law, no imputed sin" condition of the individual to support that, which is sufficient for my argument. Even the 'Downs syndrome people' are exempt under those guidelines even though they may be adult. That should bring comfort to alot of people. [Matt 24:30,31 "And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. "And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Notice that there is no mention of any one but "His elect" being gathered together.] And who's the 'elect', John, except those who abide in Christ and reside in His Kingdom here on Earth? Do you know what kind of a person that is? If you do then you should realize the challenge we all have and not continue to think all professing Christians will make the rapture. [I have found no evidence that there are "others" in heaven who have been saved apart from union with Christ, which your theory would neccessitate.] Rev. 20:12 (NASB-U) And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds. The books, John, who's in there and were their names written in there before or after the resurrection? |
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2 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | John Reformed | 100100 | ||
Ken, [Again, may I remind you that there was nothing to hinder that priviledge the children had. No law....no sin imputed. They couldn't be denied for such is the Kingdom made of...Why read into it "stuff" that's not there.] My point is that the gospel is the usual means by which men are called to place faith in Christ for salvation. This assumes that the hearer has the ability to understand it's message to begin with. In the case of infants and other innocents (severe mental handicaps) the understanding of the gospel would be beyond their physical ability. Since the Bible does not tell us explicitly how these helpless one's are to be saved, our trust must be placed in what we know about the character and attributes of God Himself. I have no clue as to where you got the mistaken idea that I think that mere professers will be saved! I BELIEVE Rom 10:9,10 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. "The books, John, who's in there and were their names written in there before or after the resurrection? "Phil 4:3 Indeed, true companion, I ask you also to help these women who have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, together with Clement also and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of life. Rev 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. Rev 13:7,8 It was also given to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them, and authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation was given to him. All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. The Book of Life contains the names of the elect whom God had chosen from eternity. John PS I did not address your statement "Ok but you offer nothing because there is nothing other than "no law, no imputed sin" condition of the individual to support that, which is sufficient for my argument. Even the 'Downs syndrome people' are exempt under those guidelines even though they may be adult. That should bring comfort to alot of people." Sorry but I failed to understand it. Is "no law, no imputed sin" a quote of mine? I don't think so. |
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