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1 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | heathclif89 | 99829 | ||
From Westminster Confession, Chapter 10: III. Elect infants, dying in infance, are regenerated and saved by Christ through the Spirit, who worketh when, and where, and how he pleaseth. So also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word. Also, there is NO age of innocence. CHAPTER VI. Of the Fall of Man, of Sin, and of the Punishment thereof. I. Our first parents, begin seduced by the subtilty and temptations of Satan, sinned in eating the forbidden fruit. This their sin God was pleased, according to his wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to order it to his own glory. II. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the faculties and parts of soul and body. III. They being the root of mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed, and the same death in sin and corrupted nature conveyed to all their posterity, descending from them by original generation. IV. From this original corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions. V. This corruption of nature, during this life, doth remain in those that are regenerated; and although it be through Christ pardoned and mortified, yet both itself, and all the motions thereof, are truly and properly sin. VI. Every sin, both original and actual, being a transgression of the righteous law of God, and contrary thereunto, doth, in its own nature, bring guilt upon the sinner, whereby he is bound over to the wrath of God, and curse of the law, and so made subject to death, with all miseries spiritual, temporal, and eternal. Some Scripture Proofs: ROM 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. 15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. 1CO 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. This is my understanding. I am speaking from a position where I have lost three babies in birth. (I am telling you this so that you can see that I am not letting my personal thoughts of fairness get in the way of what the Bible tells me.) I hope this helps... |
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2 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 99835 | ||
Mark 10:14 (NASB-U) But when Jesus saw this, He was indignant and said to them, "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Don't you think it a bit strange that Jesus could say this and He wasn't even crucified? No one seems to ever ask that question. Salvation, for anyone, wasn't even made availabble for anyone at this point in time. Yet the little children were safe regardless of the "Elect". |
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3 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 99848 | ||
"Salvation, for anyone, wasn't even made availabble for anyone at this point in time." So no one before the resurrection was saved?!? --Joe! |
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4 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 99864 | ||
Didn't say that. I made reference to the children of "unregenerate", "unelect" parents. Since Jesus made no distinctions, why should we? It is the 'disposition' of the child that the kingdom of God is so comprised....and requires. Jesus' words, not mine. |
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5 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 99875 | ||
'Didn't say that. I made reference to the children of "unregenerate", "unelect" parents. Since Jesus made no distinctions, why should we?' Who said we should, with regard to evangelism? And how do you know that the parents were unregenerate? They were bringing their children to Jesus, after all. Lastly, Jesus said: "Permit the children to come to Me; do not hinder them; for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these" The kingdom belongs to SUCH as these, not specifically to them (necessarily). By the way, this is one of the passages that some use to support the baptism of infants, since the kingdom of God belongs not only to those old enough to profess their faith yet. --Joe! |
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6 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 99889 | ||
[The kingdom belongs to SUCH as these, not specifically to them...] There is a difference between innocence and purity. A baby is innocent. Purity is from nuturing and not a given but must be learned in innocence. Jesus saves to make innocence by virtue of the new birth. Purity happens when we abide and are nutured into "son-ship". It says such AS these. Therefore I believe it safe to asumme Jesus means disposition and innocence; an imputation of Himself. Purifying is to happen when one hungers and thirsts and is fed "mother's milk"; an impartation of Christ through the teaching of the church. Hopefully 'mother's milk' is pure and not full of 'strodium 90'. |
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7 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 99923 | ||
'There is a difference between innocence and purity. A baby is innocent. Purity is from nuturing and not a given but must be learned in innocence. Jesus saves to make innocence by virtue of the new birth. Purity happens when we abide and are nutured into "son-ship".' What Scriptures inform this perspective? --Joe! |
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8 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 99948 | ||
Lot's, Joe. But I'll let you think about that for awhile. ....While you're thinking consider all the bad thoughts you still entertain then think about your own "purity" and ask a few questions of yourself. The first one maybe should be, "How come if Jesus saved me"? |
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9 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 100006 | ||
'While you're thinking consider all the bad thoughts you still entertain then think about your own "purity" and ask a few questions of yourself. The first one maybe should be, "How come if Jesus saved me"?' Romans 7 answers that one. --Joe! |
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10 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 100022 | ||
OK! But what's the cure beyond more self effort and how does one procure it? | ||||||
11 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 100024 | ||
The pursuit of holiness is a lifelong struggle of waging a fierce war against one's sin (1 Peter 2:11) and putting one's sin to death (Colossians 3). It is effort on our part (hence all the New Testament commands to "strive" and "press on" and "labor"), but the strength comes from the Spirit of God (Colossians 1:29) and it is God working within us through the means He provides to change our disposition and give us resolve to obey Him (Philippians 2:12-13), all for His glory. --Joe! |
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12 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Ken hepting | 100026 | ||
[The pursuit of holiness is a lifelong struggle of waging a fierce war against one's sin (1 Peter 2:11) and putting one's sin to death (Colossians 3). It is effort on our part (hence all the New Testament commands to "strive" and "press on" and "labor"), but the strength comes from the Spirit of God (Colossians 1:29) and it is God working within us through the means He provides to change our disposition and give us resolve to obey Him (Philippians 2:12-13), all for His glory.] In principle I agree but the specifics are to vague. Peter speaks of purifying ones "soul". To me that speaks of crucifying ones self. "...the violent take it by force". However the violent don't work from their own self effort but from life taught from the "law of Life" [Rom.8.2] So when you speak of the pursuit of holiness it must mean the pursuit of Christ who produces in me the 'fruit' of His Spirit one of which is "Holiness", His. So our effort, in overcoming, is because we take into orselves more of Him [His Law of LIFE] and not a fruit of His character. Today my need may be to be holy but tomorrow what will my need be? Patience? Long suffering? Joy? So as the song says, "Just give me Jesus" and then I must learn to abide in Him to become a "son brought into glory". This is kingdom of God living and the violent do take it by force. |
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13 | IS there any answers out there? | NT general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 100118 | ||
You wrote: "In principle I agree but the specifics are to vague." Huh? You wrote: 'So when you speak of the pursuit of holiness it must mean the pursuit of Christ who produces in me the 'fruit' of His Spirit one of which is "Holiness", His.' What does Scripture say? "Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord." --Hebrews 12:14 'As obedient children, do not be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, but like the Holy One who called you, be holy yourselves also in all your behavior; because it is written, "YOU SHALL BE HOLY, FOR I AM HOLY."' --1 Peter 1:14-16 You wrote: "Today my need may be to be holy but tomorrow what will my need be? Patience? Long suffering? Joy?" The patience which God produces in us ia a holy patience. The joy produced is a holy joy. Holiness is characteristic of all of the fruits of our sanctification. --Joe! |
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