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1 | Do Jesus and Paul agree on salv by faith | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 92356 | ||
Brad, The discussion has been around for the centuries since the Reformation. For 1500 years before that there was agreement. Check the history. Please don't group LDS and Catholic positions on baptism together. It is not fair either to the LDS nor the Catholics and neither would be happy grouped together. They do not have have the same theology on baptism at all. Emmaus |
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2 | Do Jesus and Paul agree on salv by faith | NT general Archive 1 | nivlac5 | 92357 | ||
Emmaus, I agree with you, the LDS view of Baptism is different. I also affirm that you and I share much more in common theologicaly than LDS. Actually, I don't share much of anything with LDS. But with the issue of soteriology I am disagreement with both groups. I must say that when you mentioned that before the Reformation there was agreement. I would definately beg to differ. Why do you think the creeds were written? Which I agree with, by the way. They were written to combat heresy, such as Pelagian heresy(dealing with soteriology), others include the Arian heresy, Sabellian heresy as well others. All occurring prior to the Reformation. The Reformation was needed, because, at that point in time the Church had fallen away from the central tenants of Holy scripture and irrefutably became corrupt. Way more could be said, but nevertheless, these controversies span well before the Reformation. Christians must continualy appeal the authority of scripture and be careful not to let tradition trump the word of God. In Christ, Brad |
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3 | Do Jesus and Paul agree on salv by faith | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 92383 | ||
Brad, I will presume then that you agree with the portion of the Nicean Creed that says: "We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins..." You may have the last word if you wish. If we pursue this much further we might rightly be accused of beating the proverbial horse. Emmaus |
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4 | Do Jesus and Paul agree on salv by faith | NT general Archive 1 | nivlac5 | 92659 | ||
certainly I agree! The baptism of the Holy Spirit upon faith. The very one John the Baptist said would come with Christ(Acts 10-11)Not of water, but of spirit, the same Spirit that quickens a man who is dead in Sin.(Eph 2). Emmaus, thanks for the dialogue, it has been edifying and enriching. To God be the Glory, Brad | ||||||