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1 | I liked most of what... | Bible general Archive 1 | kalos | 12254 | ||
EdB: In regard to "slain in the spirit," you ask: "But is it wrong? Can we say it is wrong because it isn’t spelled out in the Bible? Again if it violated any Biblical teaching then yes we could. But in this case nothing is violated, no doctrine is modified, no commandment, precept, statute, teaching, or counsel is jeopardized so what makes it wrong? " First, let me say, EdB, I think you know that I esteem you very highly, have a great deal of respect for you, and count you as a friend. So, I want you to know that no personal offense or criticism is intended in my Note here. Let everyone understand that EdB is a conscientious, honest-hearted follower of the Lord. With all respect, I would like to reply to your question, as quoted above. It has already been adequately shown that "slain in the spirit" is absolutely without scriptural precedent. Nevertheless, I will not be drawn into a quarrel over this point. Believe it or don't believe it. It's each one's own choice. What makes the practice of being slain in the spirit wrong? I'm not saying the slayee is sinning when they experience being slain in the spirit. What I am saying is that the experience has been the cause of spiritual, emotional and physical damage. I quote Hank Hanegraaff regarding this. The following is not Hanegraaff's opinion or interpretation of Scripture. It is a simple matter of fact which can be supported by objective evidence. (I realize many people do not "like" Hanegraaff for various reasons. The main reason being that he points out error and bad doctrine wherever he finds it. God forbid that anyone should do that. Let's just go along with anything in the name of unity. I don't think so.) Hank Hanegraaff, in his Counterfeit Revival, has written about being “slain in the Spirit”: “Despite the pious attribution of this phenomenon to the Holy Spirit as well as the pragmatic addition of ‘catchers,’ multitudes continue to suffer spiritual, emotional and physical damage from this practice. Some have even died.” (www.equip.org/ ) "Furthermore, let me underscore the fact that I continue to be gravely concerned about the spiritual and physical consequences of unbiblical manifestations such as spasmodic jerking and being “slain in the spirit.' " (STATEMENT DP385 CRI Statement on December Meetings Between Hank Hanegraaff and Brownsville Revival Leaders) (www.equip.org/ ) If anyone still insists upon pretending there is nothing wrong with this harmful practice, then that is their right. It is also their right to believe in UFOs, leprechauns, the Tooth Fairy, etc. (Please, don't reply to me asking me if Hanegraaff is my god? That is absurd. And don't ask me to explain Hanegraaf. If you want further explanation or amplification of what he writes, go to the website and read the entire article for yourself. At the website, click on"Free Articles." Then use the Search function to find the above quoted articles. --JVH0212 "In essentials unity, in nonessentials liberty, and in all things charity." |
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2 | I liked most of what... | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 12290 | ||
JVH0212 thank you for your kind and gracious complements. I too respect and hold you in high esteem. I think your above reproach in you honesty and your diligence to seeking the true Word of God. In the same way you came forth and responded to my point I would like to respond to yours. Let me say I find myself defending something I view with some disdain. It was never my intention to do so however I can no more agree with opposite position that would call being “slain in the spirit” as being from Satan. First I’m on record as saying there is no Biblical evidence, which convinces me, to support the manifestation of being “Slain in the Spirit”. I have also gone on record and said that in most cases “Slain in the Spirit” is nothing more that fleshly manifestations. Behind which I think there is two causes. The first, the desire to belong, everyone else is doing so I will too. The second a psychological/bodily reaction, in this I believe the participant while earnestly seeking of God is startled, shocked, caught up in the moment when someone suddenly shouts and touches (sometimes pushes, other times strike) them and their body reacts, with an inborn flight reflex(as to escape) and having no where to go their legs collapse. However I can believe there have been valid cases of being “slain in the Spirit”, times when God wanted that person’s full and undivided attention. They are rare, very rare in my opinion. I believe when it happens the person that has had the experience will be completely transformed by the experience. I do not believe they will rise, dust themselves off, go back, and sit down. God will have given them a mission and I believe they will become driven. I do not believe there is any facts to repudiate the above statement. What JVH0212 is responding to is my response to “There” where he would call “Slain in the Spirit” a counterfeit of Satan. I stated that because “Slain in the Spirit’ does not violate anything in the Bible I can find no standard to judge it. JVH0212 brings up Hank Hanegraaff’s excellent book “The Counterfeit Revival” which I have read and for the most part agree with. In it Mr. Hanegraaff examines the practice of “Slain in the Spirit’ as conducted in big name revivals and TV evangelist. Where it becomes almost circus like with the “Preacher” pumping the experience, people dropping but then they move to get comfortable, catchers catching/dropping people, people are |
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