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1 | Who is going into the millenium? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 6093 | ||
I'm going to make one last attempt to educate someone. The two that flagged Orthodoxy's updates as being unBiblical are seriously mistaken. Orthodoxy’s view is called the Preterist view and is held by a great number of theologians. Men of renown that I feel safe in saying has spent more time studying the Bible and in particular the Book of Revelation than the two that flagged Orthodoxy’s updates as unbiblical. There is another school of thought that is very similar to Preterist in that they believe much of Revelation has been accomplished already and that school of thought is call Historist. Of which men such as John Wycliffe, John Knox, William Tyndale, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Ulrich Zwingli, Phillip Melanchthon, sir Issac Newton, Jan Huss, John Fox, John Wesley, Johnathan Edwards, George Whitfield, Charles Finney, C.H. Surgeon, Matthew Henry, Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, E. B. Elliot. H. Guinness, and Bishop Thomas Newton are members. (Revelation Four Views edit by Steve Gregg, Pub Nelson 1953,1997) Now If you will take a moment and study this list you will see names of men that died for Christ. Men that were persecuted for Christ. Men that gave their lives for Christ. I would like the two that flagged Othrodoxy’s comments as unbiblical to also know they are calling the idea’s these men held as unbiblical. These men may have had mistaken ideas (which has yet to be proved) but I believe they had held valid possible interpretations of the Bible and were not acting as agents of Satan trying to deceive anyone. The futurist view of which I’m sure the two of you hold is a fairly modern view and came into being around the time of John Darby, who then gave the idea to Scofield who incorporated the idea into his Bible. It wasn’t given much thought until Israel became a nation in 1948 and this opened the door for many many Futurist to declare the second coming of Jesus on or before May of 1988, 40 years or one generation from the founding of Israel. Many claimed to have been given visions, prophecy, and angelic visitations that confirmed this date. We now know they are all false. Now let us look at the accuracy of the Historist view. In 1690 the King of England asked Historist Robert Flemming by his understanding of Revelation when would the papal rule of Europe fall? He replied that it would began in 1794 and expire in 1848. 1794 marked the beginning of the French Revolution which was the beginning of the down fall of papal rule and in 1848 the pope was driven from Rome if only temporarily. Mr. Flemming had set those dates 100 years before they happened, and his book title Apocalyptic Key published in 1701 can confirm this. (ibid pg 35) What about the preterist? Well in Revelation chapter 16 it talks about hail raining down weighing one talent or 90 to 100 pounds. In the siege of Jerusalem the Roman army fired their catapults from over a quarter mile away and guess what size the projectiles were? You got it one talent in weight. What about the blood in the rivers? It is said that when the fighting for the temple was finished soldiers were forces to crawl over bodies to reach their next victim. The bodies were piled around the altar of the temple as high as the altar. One observers standing back observed that blood was flowing so freely that it cascaded down the temple steps and over the sides of the temple mount. That view from a distance with the fire in the temple and blood flowing over the mount made the whole thing look like apocalyptic volcano. All I’m asking if your going to flag someone’s comments as unbiblical know enough about the subject to be able to supply a logical defense for your action. |
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2 | What year was the Revelation written? | Bible general Archive 1 | 14.2sailor | 125436 | ||
When you list men who held the Preterist view, (Of which men such as John Wycliffe, John Knox, William Tyndale, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Ulrich Zwingli, Phillip Melanchthon, sir Issac Newton, Jan Huss, John Fox, John Wesley, Johnathan Edwards, George Whitfield, Charles Finney, C.H. Surgeon, Matthew Henry, Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, E. B. Elliot. H. Guinness, and Bishop Thomas Newton are members.)is there any record of what date they individually thought the book (The Revelation)was written? | ||||||
3 | What year was the Revelation written? | Bible general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 125437 | ||
To the best of my knowledge John Wycliffe, John Knox, William Tyndale, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Ulrich Zwingli, Phillip Melanchthon, Sir Issac Newton, Jan Huss, John Fox, John Wesley, Johnathan Edwards, George Whitfield, Charles Finney (must we include him???), C. H. Surgeon, Matthew Henry, Adam Clarke, Albert Barnes, E. B. Elliot. H. Guinness, and Bishop Thomas Newton thought it was written somewhere from 95 through 96 AD. Its possible that Augustine, John Chrysostom, Cotton Mather, John Gill, John Haley, Sir Winston Churchill, W. C. Handy, R. C. Sproul, and John Kerry accepted this time period as well. | ||||||
4 | What year was the Revelation written? | Bible general Archive 1 | 14.2sailor | 125438 | ||
I know that Charles Finney was not too sure about things like the Bible being from God; but who is John Kerry? | ||||||
5 | What year was the Revelation written? | Bible general Archive 1 | DocTrinsograce | 125447 | ||
I'm sorry... I was being tounge-in-cheek... He is the Democratic Nominee for US President in 2004... I threw a couple more non-theologians in there too. The reason I was kidding was because of the mixture of folks in that preterist list... a few of them were about as antipodal as people can get. | ||||||