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1 | What about chapter 16? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 5785 | ||
You know unless someone can come up with a better answer that might be my choice. Let me ask you what do you do with Revelation chapter 16? If you believe that this has already taken place can you give me some indication as to when and where? |
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2 | What about chapter 16? | Bible general Archive 1 | orthodoxy | 5804 | ||
I believe that Revelation has a threefold purpose. The first is to provide the church with a glimpse of heaven, which in turn makes a gigantic part of Scripture make a lot more sense. All of the tabernacle furniture? Mirrored in Revelation at some point. The great covenant promise given to Abraham in Genesis 17:7? Cf. Revelation 21:3. The entire book is filled with parallels of this kind. The second purpose, and the most directly applicable to the original audience, is to prophacy about the events surrounding the destruction of Jerusalem. The similarities are striking. And in Josephus, who records the war in 67-73AD, says that the Christians had fled Jerusalem for they had a word of revelation. This is the preterist part of my eschatology. I believe that most of Revelation except for the second half of 20-22 has already happened in the events surrounding the fall of Jerusalem. The army from the north (Rome), came through the land and killed upwards of a million Jews. Severe famine, widespread death, disease, and destruction. The third purpose of Revelation is to provide the church with snapshots of what life will be like between the Advents. There are many possible "fulfillments" of these passages, for in this sense are not intended to speak about a single event (except for, of course, the great white throne, New Jerusalem, and imagery of that type). As such, saying that Revelation 16 "has already taken place" doesn't make much sense when using Revelation in this third way. It has happened many times before, and will happen many times again. The passage is intended to be a comfort to the church, stranger in a strange land, that God will come to judge her enemies and vindicate the righteous. |
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3 | More help with the millennium | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 5806 | ||
Okay, that gives me something to think about. If you beleive this is the millennium, then you probably believe that Satan is restrained in the pit Rev 20:2-3. If so where do you think all the sin in the world today comes from? Also we are told Satan's role is as an accuser of the brethern, how is this done if he is sealed in the pit? One other part still bothers me in Rev. chapter 16:19 it says the great city (Jerusalem?) was divided into three parts where has that occured? Thanks for giving us a preterist view of Revelation | ||||||
4 | More help with the millennium | Bible general Archive 1 | orthodoxy | 5811 | ||
Yes, I do believe that Satan is restrained. His capacity for deceiving the nations was removed at Pentecost. But "the nations" is simply a term for "the Gentiles." No longer is the Word only for the Israelites and those who choose to identify themselves with the Israelite nation. Also, just because Satan's activity is restricted does not mean that he no longer has any activity in the world. Also, I do not believe that the sin in the world comes from Satan. It comes from us; we don't need his help. We are quite capable on our own. Satan was the accuser of the brethren. But "who shall bring an accusation against God's elect." Satan no longer has anything to bring against God's own, for justice has been served in the atoning work of Christ. He can no longer accuse the brethren. About Rev. 16:19. During the siege of Jerusalem, a three-faction civil war broke out between the Jews. Stones weighing up to 90 pounds were hurled over the walls by Roman catapults. Check out http://www.credenda.org/issues/9-4eschaton.php and http://www.credenda.org/issues/9-5eschaton.php for more information on this subject. In fact, the entire Eschaton section on that site is definitely worth reading. Also, Kenneth Gentry's book _Before Jerusalem Fell_ is an excellent exposition of preterism, even though he himself goes the postmillennial route instead of my own amillennial direction. |
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5 | Three way split? | Bible general Archive 1 | EdB | 5820 | ||
This really isn't helping me to get an answer according to my premillennial thinking but it is fascinating. I had a thought could the three way split of the great city in Rev 16:19 be talking about the situation between the Jews, Muslims and Christians? | ||||||
6 | Three way split? | Bible general Archive 1 | prayon | 5823 | ||
I looked in 3 commentaries and got 2 different answers. The first is the one I like - That the cities division in to 3 parts is symbolic of its complete destruction. Three being the symbol/number of completeness. The second one I checked said that is could possibly be the world wide city instead of Jerusalem. The 3rd had no comment - I guess this is another one of those "Ahhhhh-soooo" questions. | ||||||