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1 | salvation/baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | jmgjazzum | 13827 | ||
Part 2: So how does this relate to baptism? God's word cannot be ignored for the sake of convenience. Let's look at what the bible says. Although I have written out the verses here, I encourage you to look them up and read them in their contexts. "John the Baptist appeared in the wilderness preaching a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins." Mark 1:4 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned." Mark 16:16 "Jesus answered and said to him, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.' Nicodemus said to Him, 'How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he?' Jesus answered, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.'" John 3:3-5 "Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you--not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience--through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." I Peter 3:21 Acts 2:36 - "'Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ--this Jesus whom you crucified.' Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, 'Brethren, what shall we do?'" (Acts 2:36-37) Stop. The next verse is in my mind the climax of the bible. Ever since the first sin in the Garden of Eden, God has had one purpose: to reconcile man and God. This is essentially the theme of the bible. Before man sinned, he was in a perfect relationship with God, graphically Illustrated here: (God)(man). After the initial sin, the situation became like this: (God)]SIN[(man). Sin seperated man and God. God attempted to alleviate this problem by wiping out the sin (the flood). It came back. He attempted the law system, but this was limited only to the Israelites, and the religious leaders (Pharisees) were making it very difficult. At last God pulls out His trump card. Free salvation for all mankind. The Messiah. The Perfect Sacrifice. God sent His Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross, to wash away our sins, restoring our relationship with Him and giving us an eternal home in Heaven with Him! Jesus knew this. By the time of this verse, His apostles knew it, however no one in this crowd knew or understood it. But NOW was the time to joyously announce it to the world! The Good News! Redemption is available now for me and for you! The crowd asked, "What shall we do?" (v. 27) Peter stood up and said, "Repent, and accept Jesus into your heart and you shall be saved." No? Then he stood up and said, "Repent, and say this prayer with me, and you shall be saved." No? What does the bible say? Acts 2:38 - "Peter said to them, 'Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.'" "So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls." Acts 2:41 Notice "be baptized ... for the forgiveness of your sins," and the fact that the SOULS were ADDED after they were baptized. Will you risk deviating your soul from what God has stated? What if Noah didn't want to cut any more gopher wood and decided to make the ark a little smaller than what God had told him? Would God still have saved him and his family? We don't know, but the question for you is, will you follow what God has said, or what man has said? "Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin." Romans 6:3-7 |
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2 | salvation/baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | Justin White | 13848 | ||
Hello The righteous will live by faith. You are confusing salvation and our walk with the Lord. Salvation is by faith. We cannot do anything to gain salvation except believe. Believe; stop relying on anything apart from Christ for salvation … did He not do enough? Be baptized as part of your walk with the Lord, this symbolizes what happens at the rebirth, it is not part of the rebirth. You are trapped in legalism. A man who gives his life on his deathbed, a man who gives his life in a desert region, a man who gives his life to Jesus and then dies in an accident on the way to being baptized … these people not saved? Matthew 23:12-14 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.” I pray that God reveals the truth to you. I fear that you are teaching this to others and keeping them from salvation. Boast in nothing but the cross of Jesus. Yours in Christ, Justin |
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3 | salvation/baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | jmgjazzum | 13891 | ||
Hello, Justin I whole-heartedly agree that the righteous shall live by faith. But I do not want to be misleading. Our faith does not save us, but the blood of Jesus that was shed on the cross to wash away our sins does. Baptism is an act of obedience to the plan for salvation that God has established. Baptism is the necessary display of the faith that we must have to be saved. Faith alone is not enough. I beg you to read James chapter 2, starting in verse 14. It is too long to reproduce here, but I believe the scriptures should often be left to speak for themselves, and this passage has a lot to say. Give particular consideration to verses 14, 19, 20, and 24. It is not just faith that saves us, but an obedient faith. I'm afraid I must ask you to provide scriptural support for the assertions you made in your first two paragraphs. Please don't take me the wrong way. It is IMPOSSIBLE to earn our way to heaven. I am not saying that deeds can in any way cause us to deserve salvation (legalism). Christ did the deed; He paid the debt we could never pay. But He set up conditions we must follow to recieve it. As to your hypothetical situations, I am not God, and not a judge, and I honestly don't know the fate of the souls you have listed. But I do not believe that God, once giving someone the opportunity to know the Truth, would deny them the opportunity to obey that truth. I am glad that, despite our differences, we still have one thing in common: Christ. This is more than most of the world can say. I pray that there be no animosity between us, and how much I wish that Satan had never distorted God's message (For either of us - I do not claim to have a perfect discernment of God's word) that it would seperate those who love Christ. I believe this forum is an excellent tool for God to reveal His will for us, and I pray, too that He will do so! You may find it funny that my name is Justin, too. In Christian love, JMGJazzum |
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4 | salvation/baptism | Bible general Archive 1 | Justin White | 13916 | ||
Hello, Justin I hope I do not seem confrontational. I am very passionate about the foundation of Christianity. Martin Luther King after receiving the revelation that the righteous will live by faith removed the book of James (because he thought it conflicted with salvation through faith). Later, when he understood James, he had it re-inserted. Faith without works is dead … this simply means that if you have a genuine faith in God you will act in a certain way. Romans 10:9-11 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. John 5:4-6 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God John 3:15-17 "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Romans 3:27-29 For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. Romans 4:1-3 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about--but not before God. Romans 5:1-2 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Romans 10:9-11 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. Galatians 2:15-17 know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified. The following scripture is one of the reasons I am so zealous about this topic. Galatians 5:3-5 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. Ephesians 2:7-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— So do these scriptures conflict with scriptures from James such as: James 2:23-25 You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone. No, the answer is this … genuine faith leads to works … salvation is NOT by works … Galatians 3:1-3 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by observing the law, or by believing what you heard? Yours in Christ Justin |
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5 | Hello!Martin Luther KING???Really?? | Bible general Archive 1 | fatherchuck | 13920 | ||
Hello! Martin Luther KING??? Really?? |
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6 | Hello!Martin Luther KING???Really?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Justin White | 13922 | ||
Hello Are you wondering about the missing “Jr” or am I mistaken in some other way? Please clarify. Yours in Christ, Justin |
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7 | Hello!Martin Luther KING???Really?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 13987 | ||
You are mistaken in several ways. Martin Luther is the 16th-century German Reformer. Martin Luther King, Jr., is the 20th-century American civil-rights activist. Martin Luther stood on justification by faith, and never removed books from the Bible. --Joe! |
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8 | Hello!Martin Luther KING???Really?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Justin White | 14219 | ||
Dear Joe Thanks for the clarity. I have honestly had my wires mixed on that topic. I am a relatively new convert and although some of my historical details may be imprecise (I really only have an interest in the Bible ... in the two years I have been saved I have read the Bible ad nauseum but have never read any other Christian book (whether fiction or non-fiction)) I do know, without doubt and without hesitation, that salvation comes from faith alone … it is sad that this, as the focus of my answer, was lost amid a nitpick of unimportant historical details (This purely my fault as I should never have included any historical details … the Word is enough) Jeremiah 23:28-30 "Is not my word like fire," declares the LORD, "and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces? May the truth be revealed, may Jesus be glorified. Your brother in Christ Justin |
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9 | Hello!Martin Luther KING???Really?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Reformer Joe | 14358 | ||
Praise God for your conversion! Where did your beliefs previously lie? --Joe! |
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10 | Hello!Martin Luther KING???Really?? | Bible general Archive 1 | Justin White | 14369 | ||
I thank Him always. My religion was women, alcohol and drugs. I gave my life in my friend’s sister’s room and was prayed for by a Christian I had known for a week. God graciously baptized me with His Spirit and my life was transformed so radically my atheist friends believed in God. You have no idea how thankful I am, I was utterly lost. Now I preach a righteous, which is by faith from first to last, that is why I am so adamantly against baptism and the like as part of salvation. May the Author and Finisher of our faith lavish you with all wisdom and knowledge that you may know more clearly the mystery of God, which is Christ. Your brother in the Faith Justin |
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