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1 | Where did Jesus get His blood from | Bible general Archive 1 | stpopoola | 13032 | ||
I was asked this question from a muslim who thinks that Christians are making so much noise about the blood of Jesus The question is, During my experience with my christian friends, I realized that none of knew the fact that Jesus as being fully human being got his blood from Mary coz God is spirit and spirit has no blood and flesh. My christian friends always say that we have fallen nature due to Adams sin in Aden but they do not know how this sin had been inherited in our nature too,though man is born free. Does fallen nature mean our hands, bodies, heads,or does it mean something else. I talked to many christian about this issue and they told me that sin is in the blood and thats every new born baby is sinner coz it receives the stained blood from parents, but as u said that Jesus was not the product of sexual intercourse, then he had to have received his blood from either God or Mary, if the answer is that He did not receive from either of them, then Jesus was created by God like Adam and Eve, but christian refuse this coz Adam was a sinner and Jesus was not,but they again forget the fact that when Adam was created he did not receive any stained blood from God, but his blood was pure like Jesus and Adam was not the product of a sexual intercourse and he did not receive his fallen nature from God or anything else, therefore, we also did not receive this fallen nature from Adam. Old Testament is clear in this matter , when it says, Children do not carry the sins of parents neither parents do carry the sins of their children. Our Holly Quran says the same thing and Jesus also clarified that when he siad, I have come to heal the sinners but not the righteous. He also siad: Honor these children for if u do not become like them u will not enter the kingdom of God, God's kingdom is for people ,like these children. Why? coz children are innocent and they have not received any fallen nature from their parents and that's why christianity is 100 per cent wrong when it says that the new born baby is sinner or having fallen nature. God did not transfer any blood to Mary by Holly Spirit to make Jesus blood as only blood for forgiveness, I mean God does not need this process to show us something, but he says to anything, Be and it Is. There are many indications in the bible that Jesus was a sinner too like Adam. It is our nature that we are sinners and we are rihgteous too, but christianity tells us that we are only sinners, and this is unjust. My last question to u is, What is the difference between Jesus blood and Adam's blood. I hope u give me a biblical answer. Waiting for ur reply and good bye I posted this question so that I learn more and add to whatever reply I will give to this person trusting that the Lord will use this as a seed to draw him to the Lord |
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2 | Where did Jesus get His blood from | Bible general Archive 1 | Bro. Tom | 13484 | ||
Dear Brother, I have read the responses that your orginal question has sparred and thought that I must share with you and the others what GOD has shared with me. True enough Jesus recieved his blood from his mother (Mary). Because, we know that GOD is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth(John4:24)Now as far as sin in the blood I don't believe that the bible say's that but, that sin is in the flesh of which every man is born in. And there is only one flesh of men(1Cornithians15:39). Because of the first man Adam we are all born in sin, but because the second man JESUS shed his blood for us it cleanses us from that sin(It's GOD'S plan if you have a problem with the way GOD done you could discuss that with him).Concerning the statement made about the children, they are born with the same sinful flesh. Thus, I believe the message JESUS was trying to get to his apostles was that they needed to be as humble as the children in order to make it in to the Kingdom.(You are referring to the question the apostles asked Jesus about who would be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven (Matthew18:1-4). There is no difference between Adam's flesh and JESUS flesh except this that Adam heeded to his flesh and Jesus put his flesh under subjection.(Jesus was tempted yet without sin)YOU CAN NOT TEMPT GOD!!! Now addressing some of the other responses you recieved there is a father and a son (not a father that became a son and then became a father again).Jesus was not GOD, therefore Jesus was not born perfect but made perfect refer to Hebrews5:8-9. He was a man just as you and I(1Cornithians15:39, one kind of flesh of men). He was a man approved of GOD(Acts2:22). If you look at the promise made to King David by GOD thru the prophet Nathan(2Samuel7:12,out of thy bowels)Also, read Romans1:3(seed of David according to the flesh). Search the scriptures so you might know the truth Acts2:32(This Jesus hath GOD raised up)GOD raised himself up? Of, course not. There's two a father and a son! Acts2:36(that GOD hath made that same Jesus(GOD made himself?)Acts2:22(miracles that GOD did by him)Isn't that two? GOD made JESUS GOD after he perfected him in GOD's righteousness, not man's righteousness. Anyone that stumbles across this letter I have written to you surely should pray and ask GOD what is the TRUTH about our Lord and Saviour!! I will check in periodically to see if anyone has any question's for me concerning this letter that I might be able to answer. Peace unto you all, Bro. Tom |
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3 | Where did Jesus get His blood from | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 13513 | ||
Dear Bro. Tom, Your statements, "Jesus was not GOD, therefore Jesus was not born perfect but made perfect refer to Hebrews5:8-9." AND "GOD made JESUS GOD after he perfected him in GOD's righteousness, not man's righteousness." ARE in SERIOUS error!! Never was Jesus MADE God. Jesus has existed for all time as God Himself with His Father and the Holy Spirit. Never did Jesus give up His Deity or was anything less than a person of the Godhead (Colossians 2:9, Hebrews 13:8). You cannot claim to receive a revelation when that revelation is clearly in violation of God's Holy Word!! This would qualify you as a "false teacher" in light of Scripture. To quote you: "you surely should pray and ask GOD what is the TRUTH about our Lord and Saviour!!" Take your own advice!! |
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4 | Question for you Both? | Bible general Archive 1 | Bro. Tom | 13552 | ||
Dearest Brother, Could you please explain to me what Hebrews5:-9 means to you? (Though he were a Son yet he learned obedience by the things which he suffered, And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him. 1st- You can't teach GOD obedience,2nd- You can't make GOD suffer. The scripture say's "being made perfect, he became" (not always was)If we read Hebrews2:7-10 it back's up what I am saying "made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death" "to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings" You can not make GOD suffer. I am not trying to take nothing away from GOD or Jesus(but there is a father and a son)it's just awesome the possibilites of a man with GOD are endless. If we read the 2nd Chapter of Acts we find that Jesus was a man approved of GOD(remember "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased"Matthew17:5)It also talks about how GOD raised Jesus up(once again that's two)And to top it off it says "that GOD hath made that same Jesus"(GOD made Jesus). Now, back to Jesus being a man born with the same type of flesh as you and I (refer to 1Cornithians15:39 one kind of flesh of men) now no one wants to see this because it means you will have to measure up to the man Jesus. We can be just like Jesus if we allow GOD to take up his abode in us as Jesus did. And, come to the realization that we can be made perfect too if if we allow GOD to lead and guide us in everything. Read Matthew5:48 " Be ye therefore perfect even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.(In my bible this is in red print, Jesus very words telling me to be perfect).Looking at your reference to to Colossians2:9 let us read this again starting at vs.1 paying particular attention to vs.2,3,8 and then 9. In reference to your comment about being a "false teacher", this is not something you want to get into a habit of doing. Unless, GOD tell's you a certain individual is a "false teacher" , and I know GOD did not tell you that did he? You did ask him didn't you? You might want to read Hebrews13:2(GOD taught me along time ago you have to be careful of what you say). Proverbs21:23 Don't be so quick to judge the words I speak. I speak these words, I speak because I see Jesus and know the truth! Show me where in the scripture where it says Jesus was GOD and I'll stop speaking like this. But, I invite you to search the scriptures(in them are life, Jesus said I give you life more abundantly) in several places in the bible it tells us Jesus was a man. Grace be with you my brothers, Bro. Tom |
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5 | Question for you Both? | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 13557 | ||
Here are SOME of the places in Scripture that PROVE that Jesus was, in fact, GOD HIMSELF!! Psalm 102:24-27, Psalm 110:1, Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 8:13-14, Isaiah 9:6, Isaiah 40:3, Daniel 7:13-14, Micah 5:2, Matthew 1:23, Matthew 3:3, Matthew 11:19, Matthew 12:8, Matthew 22:42-45, Matthew 26:63-67, Mark 1:1, Mark 15:39, John 1:1, John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, John 3:18, John 5:18, John 20:28, Acts 3:14, Acts 10:36, Acts 20:28, Romans 9:5, Romans 10:12, 1 Corinthians 1:9, 2 Corinthians 1:19, Galatians 2:20, Ephesians 4:13, Philippians 2:6, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:2, Hebrews 1:10-13, 1 Peter 2:8, 2 Peter 1:1, 2 Peter 1:17, 1 John 1:2, 1 John 3:23, 1 John 4:9, 1 John 5:10, 1 John 5:12-13, 1 John 5:20-21, Revelation 1:8, Revelation 1:11, Revelation 1:17, Revelation 17:14, Revelation 21:22, Revelation 22:13!!! Dear Bro. Tom, I REFUSE to let you off the hook here.. I challenge you to go through each and every single one of these Scriptures to see if Jesus was God Himself or not. What version of the Bible do you read out of anyway? I will tirelessly refute every single one of your posts that state that Jesus Christ was not God! If you do not believe this very FACT, which is the basis for the WHOLE Christian faith, then you are not a Christian! What cult are you a part of? Are you a Jehovah's Witness? If you continue to state that Jesus was not God, then you should not be a part of this Forum! We will take measures against you! If you go through each of those passages above, then you will be effectively PROVEN WRONG. You will see that Jesus was in fact, God Himself! ------------ As for Hebrews 5:9: Here is an explanation on Hebrews 5:9.. "5:8-9 The phrase “learned obedience by the things which He suffered” does not mean that Jesus was ever disobedient but rather that He learned through experience as a Man and through all His temptation and suffering what it meant to suffer and triumph in a way He did not experience before the incarnation. His humanity was in this sense “completed,” which is the meaning of the Greek word translated “perfected” in this context." (Believer's Study Bible) "having been perfected: This phrase does not suggest that Jesus had not been perfect before. It means that He successfully carried out God’s plan for Him. He endured suffering and temptation so that He could truly function as our High Priest, understanding our weaknesses and interceding before God for us. Author means “cause” or “source.” Jesus’ obedience to the Father led to Calvary, His own death on the Cross. The sacrifice of this sinless One in our place makes Him the source of our salvation." (Nelson's Study Bible) "In His divine nature, Christ was already perfect. However, His human nature was perfected through obedience, including suffering in order that He might be an understanding High-Priest, an example for believers (see Heb. 7:25-28; Philippians 2:8; 1 Peter 2:21), and establish the perfect righteousness (Matt. 3:15) to be imputed to believers (2 Cor. 5:21; Phil. 3:8,19)." (The MacArthur Study Bible) From this point on, I will "watch" your every move, Bro. Tom, and tirelessly refute you anywhere and everywhere on the Forum where you state that Jesus Christ was not God Himself. Do you realize what you are saying here? You are denying the very divine nature of the Son of God! To do so is heresy! And I will not let you get away with it! --Nolan |
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6 | Question for you Both? | Bible general Archive 1 | Bro. Tom | 13560 | ||
Nolan, I appreciate your very freindly christian like response let me get one thing straight with you I believe that Jesus was the son of GOD. I also have to say with out Jesus I would not of had the chance to be saved.But, Jesus was not GOD eternal, no where in what you have stated to me thus far comes out and says Jesus was GOD. But, in plenty of areas it talks about his humanity. What I am trying to get across to you is Jesus had his own spirit. Do you believe there is a father and a son. Two! Iam not taking anything away from Jesus or GOD. All I am saying is we can live just like Jesus do you believe that? And, remember what I said GOD made Jesus God! So, I am not really sure what you are accusing me of. I would have to ask you to go back and answer my question's. Instead of sending me question's. I take it you don't believe Jesus had the same flesh you have? I am sorry Nolan we don't see eye to eye on this subject. But, a man that lack understanding let him ask GOD. I will not bother you an further. But, I pray that someone happens to stumble upon our conversation and GOD is able to remove the scales from their eyes! Love from above my brother, Bro. Tom |
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7 | Question for you Both? | Bible general Archive 1 | Makarios | 13583 | ||
Dear Bro. Tom, If you do not believe that Jesus was GOD Himself and without sin, then you are not saved, my friend! Yes, you are "right" in saying that "no where in what you have stated to me thus far comes out and says Jesus was God", but the references in the Bible (the Bible VERSES that I have cited) DO explain this TRUTH- that Jesus was God in every way! The Bible will explain this, not me! Do you have a Bible? If you do not, then look up each Scripture that I have cited previously in the "Get Bible Text" function to the right of the screen. Another thing, Jesus was never "MADE INTO" God! Let me ask you: What is your interpretation of Hebrews 13:8? It says, "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever!" How do you deal with that in light of your assumptions? You will NEVER be able to convince me of this TRUTH- that Jesus was, in fact, God Himself! And I pray that you will not lead ANY others astray by this false teaching. You are a Muslim. Did you get this out of the Quran? You will not get anywhere here by challenging the essential doctrine of our Faith! What you have done is like this: If a Christian were to write a post to an Islamic Forum and say that Muhammad never received any revelation at all from God. But what you have done is so much more grevious than the example that I have stated here because we hold that Jesus Christ was never "just a prophet" but that He was fully God even while walking upon the earth! Jesus Christ has an 'intimate relationship' with those whom He calls His own, and we cannot stand for anyone to allege that He was not God. In other words, what you have stated are "fighting words"! We cannot let your assumption (that Jesus at some point was not God) go unchallenged. It is OK to ask a question, like "If Jesus was fully God, then why did He have to be "made perfect?" but you cannot jump onto a Christian Forum and assault the very essential of our Faith! This is why I am provoked to respond to you in the way that I have and I have Scripture to back up everything that I say. If you continue to make any other such assertions about Christianity (yourself being a Muslim), then you will only be met with opposition. --Nolan |
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8 | Question for you Both? | Bible general Archive 1 | stpopoola | 13657 | ||
I want to say a big thank you to all who have one way or the other contributed to the question I posted. I want to assure you that I have sent an answer which i believe is based on biblical truth to the muslim who wrote to me with the question. The summary of what I wrote to him is that Jesus came to the earth, truly man and truly God. The Bible says that "...He thought it not robbery to be equal with God" Phil 2:6 Concerning Adam's nature compared with Jesus nature, the bible says, " The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." These are just a few of the references I used to 'educate' our dear muslim friend trusting that the Lord will open his eyes of understanding so that he might know the truth and be free. Thank you all for your responses, they were really beneficial. |
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