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1 | How does eternal security build faith? | Rev 3:5 | disciplerami | 78933 | ||
Radioman2, I have to agree with you there. Romans 8:1ff shows that we can have a great deal of confidence in our salvation. But it's not to be taken for granted, lest we appear ungrateful to the Lord. That would be bad. 1 John 5:13 says the things written are so we "might know" that we HAVE eternal life. Jesus told the disciples that they have passed from death into life. Salvation is assured because God is faithful. Each saved individual must 'walk in the light' to receive the continual/instantaneous cleansing through His blood. Walking in the light doesn't mean sinless perfection, but it does require faithful obedience as much as is possible, and repentance when one falls short. I believe one can fall from God's grace, but I believe it is a very hard thing to do. You have to really be trying. And the verses Hank gave to support 'eternal security' do not, in my opinion, preclude what man may do to remove himself or herself from that secure position. Radioman, you are right. A brother or sister who is practicing sin needs to be lovingly approached and encouraged to repent. If he repents you have won a brother. Does that make sense? God bless, Disciplerami |
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2 | How does eternal security build faith? | Rev 3:5 | Radioman2 | 78934 | ||
Disciplerami: Greetings and thank you for your reply. I agree with you that this makes sense: Anyone who is practicing sin needs to be lovingly approached and encouraged to repent. One who persists in willful, deliberate sin and rebellion against the Lord should not be encouraged with the promise of security. Such a person may be clinging to a false hope. (Nevertheless, Scripture abundantly affirms the Christian's eternal security. See Jn3:15-16, 36; 10:27-30; Rom 8:35,37-39; Eph 1:12-14; 4:30; Phil 1:6; Heb 10:12-14; 1 Pet 1:3-5.) Radioman2 |
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3 | How does eternal security build faith? | Rev 3:5 | gracefull | 78942 | ||
I see God's wisdom in this scripture Hebrew 2:14-16 Froasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil; And deliver them that through FEAR(my caps) of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage. For verily He took not on Him the nature of angels; but He took on Him the seed of Abraham. God's children can't live as children whe the fear of death hovers over them. Whe we recognize that we are free we can move forward and not be afraid that we will be sent to hell if we miss some 'ordinance'. We are to move forward in faith in His love, mercy and grace, growing up in Christ. Fear of eternal punishment NEVER promotes a loving relationship. It compels us at the point of salvation to choose... then we are children commanded to grow up in Christ by faith. God bless |
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4 | How does eternal security build faith? | Rev 3:5 | philemcc | 78947 | ||
Gracefull (sounds like a name from pilgrims progress) We are splitting hairs here, I agree that we as the children of God should not live in fear, but I also know that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. My problem with the doctrine of eternal security is its misuse, not that it does not provide security for the believer. The church is warned about false prophets and teachers in 1 Timothy, 2 Peter, 1 John, Jude and Revelations. In Ephesians we are told to put on the full armor of God so that you can take you stand against the devil’s schemes. My concerns is the same as Paul’s in …. Gal 4: 8Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. 9But now that you know God--or rather are known by God--how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? 10You are observing special days and months and seasons and years! 11I fear for you, that somehow I have wasted my efforts on you…. 17Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may be zealous for them. Now I understand that these verses could be used to argue either point of view, that we are eternally secure and need to add nothing to the Gospel or that we could loose everything we have gained by adding works. I think the answer is the clear teaching of the truth which includes the dangers and pitfalls of false teaching. And endless debate over which position is right serves no purpose and I am now asking myself why I responded to your post since I basically agree with what you said. philemcc |
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5 | How does eternal security build faith? | Rev 3:5 | gracefull | 78951 | ||
Good afternoon philemcc, I had to chuckle as I myself have done this after a lengthy response. The problem lies, I believe with pastors and teachers not teaching the power of the gospel to deliver and set us free, Because I believe both stances bring bondage. There are some on one extreme side that says...no matter how you live, you are heaven bound. Then there is the other side, make sure you constantly repent because you may have sinned and don't know it and if the Lord comes you will be lost. OHHHHHHH! Both grieve me in my spirit because both defeat the ultimate goal of Jesus-to redeem us from all past sins and set us FREE from the rule of sin in our lives, and cover us with grace while we grow toward that goal. One compels to continue carelessly through life and the other binds us not to move at all! Who the son sets free is truly free, dead to sin and free to walk in newness of life!Let's move on to learn how to live in that newness of life! From the heart! |
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