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1 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Reformer Joe | 79396 | ||
"I don't know any Scientology converts or JW converts." They are out there, trust me. God brings people out of all different kinds of disbelief, and adherents to those two groups are no exception. "Why isn't the fundamentalist Christian Church bringing this fact more to light? Could it be their strict adhesion to all things Israel? Don't Israeli Jews need Christ as much as the Palestinian Muslims?" Of course they do, but many contemporary Christians are so theologically confused that they think that somehow all Jews are God's people and are somehow going to be saved apart from Y'shua their Messiah. Mix in the false notion that one must support the nation of Israel no matter how apostate they may be from the God of the Bible, and there we have our lack of evangelism to Jews and our support of all things Israeli. --Joe! |
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2 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Radioman2 | 79439 | ||
'Salvation Without Conversion?' John Hagee "...believes that Jewish people do not need to be saved, since they are under a different covenant' (http://www.equip.org/free/DE405.htm). - - - - - - - - - - - - - Reformer Joe: Thank you for pointing out that "...many contemporary Christians are so theologically confused that they think that somehow all Jews are God's people and are somehow going to be saved apart from Y'shua their Messiah." John Hagee is one who not only believes, but also propagates, this false doctrine: 'Salvation Without Conversion? 'Hagee is recognized as a fierce foe of anti-Semitism... 'While his bold stance against anti-Semitism is certainly praiseworthy, Hagee’s zealousness for the Jewish people and their cause has led him to commit a most serious doctrinal error — salvation for the Jews without conversion to Christianity. One newspaper account puts it this way: 'Trying to convert Jews is a “waste of time,” he [Hagee] said. . . . 'Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha’i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced with Christianity, he says. '“The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses,” Hagee said. “I believe that every Gentile person can only come to God through the cross of Christ. I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption. '“The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God until God gives him a greater revelation. And God has not,” said Hagee . . .[9] '“There are right now Jewish people on this earth who have a powerful and special relationship with God,” declares Hagee in one of his books. “...Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that “all the Jews are lost” and can’t be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity! . . . there are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now...” [10] 'Hagee also affirms: “If God blinded the Jewish people to the identity of Jesus as Messiah, how could He send them to hell for not seeing what he had forbidden them to see?”[11] He continues, “All people will gain entrance into heaven through Christ. The question is one of timing.” [12] 'Such rhetoric raises some thorny questions. When Hagee says “all people will gain entrance into heaven through Christ,” he is either advocating universalism (literally all people — Jewish and Gentile — will be saved), or he believes that all Jews will be saved. In either case, both positions are in serious error, but the latter is more consistent with his other statements' (http://www.equip.org/free/DH005.htm). To read the footnotes go to: (http://www.equip.org/free/DH005.htm). |
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3 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Reformer Joe | 79454 | ||
Hmmm...wonder what the Bible has to say about Hagee: ''“The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses,” Hagee said. “I believe that every Gentile person can only come to God through the cross of Christ. I believe that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a relationship with God and will come to redemption."' The Bible: "For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek." --Romans 1:16 "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." --Romans 10:4 "Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus" --Romans 3:19-24 "We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles; nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified." --Galatians 2:15-16 'So the Jews were saying, "Surely He will not kill Himself, will He, since He says, 'Where I am going, you cannot come'?" 'And He was saying to them [i.e. to the JEWS], "You are from below, I am from above; you are of this world, I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."' --John 8:22-24 And, lest we forget, the first Christians were JEWS. The sermon at Pentecost was given to JEWS. The first recorded Gentile convert is in Acts 10; before that, all of the Christians mentioned were JEWS. Jesus is the Messiah promised to the JEWS. What was the point of Jesus sending the disciples to the lost sheep of the house of Israel if they didn't need Him?!? You cited CRI as saying: '“There are right now Jewish people on this earth who have a powerful and special relationship with God,” declares Hagee in one of his books. “...Let us put an end to the Christian chatter that “all the Jews are lost” and can’t be in the will of God until they convert to Christianity! . . . there are a certain number of Jews in relationship with God right now...”' Yeah, they have a relationship with God right now, but it certainly isn't the type of relationship that one should envy, because the outcome is hell. And to think this guy is a Texan... --Joe! |
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4 | Originals? | Rev 22:18 | Hank | 79488 | ||
Excellent, Joe. And should it console you (assuming misery loves company), while you ruminate on the reality that Texas gave the world Hagee, please ponder on the cross that we Arkies must bear as best we can: The Natural State gave the world a certain undistinguished two-term national president. :-( --Hank | ||||||