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1 | Why is the thread associated with ID# .. | 2 Pet 2:4 | Country Girl | 127352 | ||
The post 127074 was restricted by the Lockman Foundation of the Forum because they are dedicated to God's Word and Its rightful claim to being the absolute Truth. It is a basic self-evident contradiction of His Word to think that God could have created evil and is thus banned as soon as the Foundation know of its existance. I'm not an expert on the subject but in the Gospel of John, Chapter 1, we see that EVERYTHING in the universe, even the physical and spiritual was created by God. In Genesis, we're told that everything God created was good. BUT that's not to say that everything stayed that way. We see the Fall of Mankind and the spoiling of the world by the introduction of sin. This sin was introduced by Satan. So our conclusion is that although Satan was an angel created by God, apparently he turned bad and was sentenced to Hell by God as referenced above. So even the angels are given their freedom to choose whom to serve: God or their own ungodly way. Hope this helps and blessings to you. Country Girl |
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2 | Why is the thread associated with ID# .. | 2 Pet 2:4 | Ancient | 127390 | ||
Country Girl, My first reaction when I saw this post was that the scriptures specifically state that God created evil. Upon looking at the thread, I find that Stultis also determined this and asked that someone answer to it. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. It's a ying yang. Boy girl, on off, back forward, light darkness, good evil. Now, your example is good, and I would be inclined to agree, but demonstration is secondary to plain statement. He says he did it, and that's the conclusion, regardless of any secondary reasoning. To say, "It is a basic self-evident contradiction of His Word to think that God could have created evil and is thus banned as soon as the Foundation know of its existance," is not correct. It is not a self-evident contradiction. It is the Word of God. If they "are dedicated to God's Word and Its rightful claim to being the absolute Truth," then the Word of God must be acknowledged first and foremost over doctrine. I am not personally interested in this topic, so don't misunderstand me to argue towards any goal specifically related to it. My interst is in preserving sound study based on the Bible and the words it contains as opposed to doctrines and opinions. When people stop acknowledging the authority of the stated Word in favor of their prideful opinions and doctrines, they stop learning. This topic, as opposed to being banned, should have been answered to. If refutable, it should have been soundly refuted. If not refutable, then it should have been acknowledged so that all could be edified. Where is our humility? I speak not only to everyone on the forum, but to myself as well, who recently allowed someone to provoke me to the extent that I was harsh to someone I respected on this forum. Where is our love! We should be esteeming everyone as greater than ourselves. Why is this not happening? Love is not vaunted in pride, so why is the pride so thick as to be cut with a knife? Out of hundreds of posts over the last week, I've seen the words, "you're right," once. Can you folks tell me that everyone is right, and they arguing for no good reason at all? I have personally posted to two topics with sound scripture, and I have met with indoctrination and opinions. I have met with pride, anger, insults, name-calling, disregard for plain scripture, and just plain downright rudeness. What are we doing to each other? I say, answer Stultis' question. If you people that argue him have the right of it, then let's see it, because dismissing the question stinks of pride and stubborness. People deserve to know what the Bible says on the matter. Hiding it is not edifying anyone. If he is right, then restricting it is perpetuating misconceptions instead of finding out how to understand what is written. If he is wrong, then everyone needs to see why, so they can be edified and strengthened in their own discussions on the same topic. This is my voice on the matter, and I will otherwise silence myself in regard to this topic until/unless someone chooses to ridicule, criticize, or call me names over it. I'm getting quite used to that, and it's only been a week. Ancient |
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3 | Why is the thread associated with ID# .. | 2 Pet 2:4 | Country Girl | 127393 | ||
Again, I'm not an expert on the subject; I'll let Tim Moran and the other scholars on languages speak to that. But I think the scripture you refer to in Isaiah is hinged on a word that can be interpreted a couple of different ways. Here, "create evil" really means to us that God allowed its introduction into the world because he allowed the Devil to choose that path of ungodliness. This can be compared to parent-child relationship here on earth. The parent tells the child over and over again not to do a certain thing like riding a bike without a helment or touch a hot oven but the child goes ahead and does it, insisting on having his way and finds a whole new definition for pain. From the child's young naive perspective, the parent created this situation in giving the bike or bringing the hot oven into his world. From our naive and physical, limited and finite minds, it appears the evil in the world came from God since He created the world and everything in it. But we forget the Devil was also created and God said EVERYTHING He created in the beginning was good. So again, obviously the Devil gets ALL the credit for actually bringing sin, pain, suffereing AND evil into the world. I'm afraid I can offer no specific verse to corrobarate my conclusion other than those to which I've alluded earlier. Keep studying and praying, dear friend. Blessings to you. Country Girl PS: I would invite our language scholars to chime in and contribute to the discussion. Thanks. |
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4 | When did the devil sin? | 2 Pet 2:4 | TheFinalSQL | 127403 | ||
Did the devil sin before or after God created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? Praise the Lord! Norm |
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5 | When did the devil sin? | 2 Pet 2:4 | Stultis the Fool | 127412 | ||
The devil sinned "from the beginning." [1 John 3:8] Turn to page one in your bible, and you will see the "begining." Here God creates light, and darkness is already "over the surface of the waters." "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light." Throughout the scriptures, we see a comparison between good and evil, sin and righteousness, and light and darkness, [Mattew 6:22-23, Luke 11:34-36, John 1:5, John 1:7-9, John 3:19-21, John 8:12, and many more] and here in Genesis we see these very things manifested. We (Christians) know we are the "light of the world," and we know Satan is the "Prince" of this world. We know that this world is a fleshly world and a wicked place. Read the epistles (particularly Romans, Corinthians, and Galatians) and you will see this very thing. We shine like beacons in the dark, leading others amongst all the world (which is darkness) to the Gospel. If we consider the "beginning," and we look to it, we can see in scripture the very beginning of the premises of light and darkness, good and evil, and also, the answere to your question. Possibly. :) |
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6 | Who did the devil murder? | 2 Pet 2:4 | TheFinalSQL | 127422 | ||
Who did the devil murder? We are told by Jesus that the devil was a murderer from the beginning: John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Praise the Lord! Norm |
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7 | Who did the devil murder? | 2 Pet 2:4 | Stultis the Fool | 127425 | ||
We are told that to transgress the Law in any way is to transgress the Law in all ways. James says "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all." He illustrates with the following example: "For He who said, "DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," also said, "DO NOT COMMIT MURDER." Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law." I hope this helps answer your question. |
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8 | Who did the devil murder? | 2 Pet 2:4 | TheFinalSQL | 127426 | ||
The father of lies: Genesis 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Murderer from the beginning: Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. I would have to conclude the tree of the knowledge of good and evil was created before the devil sinned. God created evil. He created everything. John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Without evil there would not be the freedom of choice, we would have been robots: Joshua 24:15 And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. Praise the Lord! Norm |
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