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NASB | 2 Peter 2:4 ¶ For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 2 Peter 2:4 ¶ For if God did not [even] spare angels that sinned, but threw them into hell and sent them to pits of gloom to be kept [there] for judgment; |
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Bible Note: Country Girl, My first reaction when I saw this post was that the scriptures specifically state that God created evil. Upon looking at the thread, I find that Stultis also determined this and asked that someone answer to it. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. It's a ying yang. Boy girl, on off, back forward, light darkness, good evil. Now, your example is good, and I would be inclined to agree, but demonstration is secondary to plain statement. He says he did it, and that's the conclusion, regardless of any secondary reasoning. To say, "It is a basic self-evident contradiction of His Word to think that God could have created evil and is thus banned as soon as the Foundation know of its existance," is not correct. It is not a self-evident contradiction. It is the Word of God. If they "are dedicated to God's Word and Its rightful claim to being the absolute Truth," then the Word of God must be acknowledged first and foremost over doctrine. I am not personally interested in this topic, so don't misunderstand me to argue towards any goal specifically related to it. My interst is in preserving sound study based on the Bible and the words it contains as opposed to doctrines and opinions. When people stop acknowledging the authority of the stated Word in favor of their prideful opinions and doctrines, they stop learning. This topic, as opposed to being banned, should have been answered to. If refutable, it should have been soundly refuted. If not refutable, then it should have been acknowledged so that all could be edified. Where is our humility? I speak not only to everyone on the forum, but to myself as well, who recently allowed someone to provoke me to the extent that I was harsh to someone I respected on this forum. Where is our love! We should be esteeming everyone as greater than ourselves. Why is this not happening? Love is not vaunted in pride, so why is the pride so thick as to be cut with a knife? Out of hundreds of posts over the last week, I've seen the words, "you're right," once. Can you folks tell me that everyone is right, and they arguing for no good reason at all? I have personally posted to two topics with sound scripture, and I have met with indoctrination and opinions. I have met with pride, anger, insults, name-calling, disregard for plain scripture, and just plain downright rudeness. What are we doing to each other? I say, answer Stultis' question. If you people that argue him have the right of it, then let's see it, because dismissing the question stinks of pride and stubborness. People deserve to know what the Bible says on the matter. Hiding it is not edifying anyone. If he is right, then restricting it is perpetuating misconceptions instead of finding out how to understand what is written. If he is wrong, then everyone needs to see why, so they can be edified and strengthened in their own discussions on the same topic. This is my voice on the matter, and I will otherwise silence myself in regard to this topic until/unless someone chooses to ridicule, criticize, or call me names over it. I'm getting quite used to that, and it's only been a week. Ancient |