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1 | How Far Are We To Suffer For Christ? | 1 Pet 4:16 | bowler | 206826 | ||
Val I must respectuly say that I am confused about your post to me. I don't think I have all the answers and am the only one who is on track. If you would realy like to know the circumstances that occassion that comment please just ask, these are people I know personally and as far as they are concerned their lives would be ruined by "turning around and sinning no more" as they put it. What I have tried to do in my post is not volunteer information that is so specific as to make the question have to be about a specific narrow paritcular subject as I know three people with different life situations this would apply to. In the name of blessed Jesus, why would you say to me that I have a Pharisee atitude? I will qualify my statment in the first paragraph for you - No, I am not saying Christ does not provide a nice life. I am saying once you have built your entire life, your house, your family, your job, on things that are the direct result of sin - if you then turn around and walk away from the sin that is the direct source of keeping these things, in obedience to Christ, you may have to be required give up the house, parts of the family, the job - and that could ruin your life. That is what my friends are saying to me, not me, but them. Christ may very well give them "a nice life" sometime afterwards, Christ is good, Christ is great. That does not mean these people will not at first have ruined lives and suffer for a long time before Christ rebuilds their lives. Hence the "suffering for Christ", hence the "ruined life". You seem to leave out the part where I say there are different ways to look at suffering and that the law could also be being obedient to Christ and that others may see things differently. Your post to me seems to be implying by your scriptures that I am standing in judgment of others and am a hypocrite, which I most respectfully and most certainly am not. Ephesians 4:3 being diligent to perserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. blessings abound, bowler blessings abound, bowler |
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2 | How Far Are We To Suffer For Christ? | 1 Pet 4:16 | Wild Olive Shoot | 206835 | ||
"True it is," said the bishop, "that death is bitter, and life is sweet; but alas! consider that the death to come is more bitter, and the life to come is more sweet." -- http://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/fox116.htm And then not long after speaking those words, John Hooper spent near 45 minutes in the fire before he would finally yield his life. He trusted in Jesus to the end because he knew what was to come. What he suffered here and now couldn’t compare to what he looked forward to and knew. Our trust, our faith, is to be in Christ, not our riches. Your friends need to know that money or wealth is not necessarily the bad thing, unless in fact they set it up as an idol which from your description seems evident, or of course they are obtaining it through sinful measures. Continuing to do that and refusing to abide in Christ has consequences far more dire than simply having a ruined life here in this world. Wouldn’t you agree? Much rather to suffer here than eternally. Have you spoken of the grace of God with your friends? Have you informed them what riches are in store for them with faith in Jesus? Have you pointed them to the Word that actually has the power to help them? They just need turn to Him. Now is that time. Mark 10:23 -30: 23 And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! 24 And the disciples were astonished at his words. But Jesus answereth again, and saith unto them, Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God! 25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. 26 And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? 27 And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible. 28 Then Peter began to say unto him, Lo, we have left all, and have followed thee. 29 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, 30 But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.” Stand in His grace, WOS |
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