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NASB | 1 Peter 4:16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | 1 Peter 4:16 but if anyone suffers [ill-treatment] as a Christian [because of his belief], he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God [because he is considered worthy to suffer] in this name. |
Subject: How Far Are We To Suffer For Christ? |
Bible Note: Val I must respectuly say that I am confused about your post to me. I don't think I have all the answers and am the only one who is on track. If you would realy like to know the circumstances that occassion that comment please just ask, these are people I know personally and as far as they are concerned their lives would be ruined by "turning around and sinning no more" as they put it. What I have tried to do in my post is not volunteer information that is so specific as to make the question have to be about a specific narrow paritcular subject as I know three people with different life situations this would apply to. In the name of blessed Jesus, why would you say to me that I have a Pharisee atitude? I will qualify my statment in the first paragraph for you - No, I am not saying Christ does not provide a nice life. I am saying once you have built your entire life, your house, your family, your job, on things that are the direct result of sin - if you then turn around and walk away from the sin that is the direct source of keeping these things, in obedience to Christ, you may have to be required give up the house, parts of the family, the job - and that could ruin your life. That is what my friends are saying to me, not me, but them. Christ may very well give them "a nice life" sometime afterwards, Christ is good, Christ is great. That does not mean these people will not at first have ruined lives and suffer for a long time before Christ rebuilds their lives. Hence the "suffering for Christ", hence the "ruined life". You seem to leave out the part where I say there are different ways to look at suffering and that the law could also be being obedient to Christ and that others may see things differently. Your post to me seems to be implying by your scriptures that I am standing in judgment of others and am a hypocrite, which I most respectfully and most certainly am not. Ephesians 4:3 being diligent to perserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. blessings abound, bowler blessings abound, bowler |