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1 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | bowler | 207071 | ||
John Yes, I agree it is about sin, and marrying them was a sin. I am confused about something, not that you said, but about the text. Maybe you could help me out here. Moses is the one speaking in Deuteronomy 21:10, he has been speaking one continuous discourse since Deuteronomy 1:6. I may be wrong about this, but I kept reading and reading and saw no event breaks there, just one long discourse. But I could be wrong, it may be various discourses strung as one single piece. The reason I say this is because when Moses speaks about this same issue in Deuteronomy 7:2-4 he says to kill everyone and not to marry them, but in Deuteronomy 21:10 he says if you want to take a wife do so - he also says in 20:10 that peace terms can be offered instead of annilating them all, as oppossed to 7:2-4. In the NASB the caption on chapter 20 says Laws of Warfare, the caption on chapter says Warnings. I may be missing the whole context thing, or not. What do you think, if you feel like discussing it further? Just a worthless son. blessings abound, bowler |
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2 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | skccab | 207077 | ||
Shalom Bowler, I have failed to welcome you to the Forum, I have enjoyed following your questions and answers. Just an idea about the difference between Dt 7 and 10. In chapter 7 Moses give the names of seven particular peoples and the reason why not to marry - they were greater than Israel. Although it's not stated in the Bible, could his orders in chapter 10 just be understood by those people involved that the seven previously named were out of the running? were not included in the allowances elsewhere? :-) Cheri |
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3 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | bowler | 207080 | ||
Cheri Thanks. Reason not to marry because they were greater? I could be really wrong, I thought that they were suppossed to utterly destroy them because they were greater than Israel. And that they were suppossed to not marry them because they would start pagan worshipping. I could be really wrong there, but I just looked again at the text in Deuteronomy 7:2-4 and tried to follow the order of what action seemed to be tied to what reason. I just saw something in posting John back about why maybe the Israelites could marry some and make peace treaties with them and why some were to be annihilated. Maybe there were two different types of enemies? Those who were nations of "the inheritance of Israel", and nations who were "far away" who were not? And the ones who were the "inheritance" had to be annihilated, and the ones who were "far" did not have to be? I looked at Deuteronomy 10 as you point out there is in vers 19 - So show your love to the alien, but you were aliens in the land of Egypt. Apparently some kind of foreigners who were not of Israel could be let live? Perhaps as long as they were from "far nations" not of the "nations of inheritance"? This goes to what you are saying "were not included in the allowances elsewhere"? Just a worthless son. blessings abound, bowler |
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4 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | skccab | 207081 | ||
Shalom Bowler, It could also be that some of the battles the spoils were to be God's, like Jericho. Absolutely nothing was to be taken from that city (see what happened to Achan when he took a few items that belonged to God!), and other battles the spoils were open for the taking. All the nations mentioned in chapter 7 were to be completely destroyed (but I don't think that that happened). But the cities spoken of in chapter 21 are also spoken of as being completely destroyed except for the few women that would be taken as wives (that's why God gave them time to mourn, the loss of parents, family, friends, homeland). I don't think that allowance is talking about an Israelite man going off into some gentile country and taking a wife, only the few enemy women taken captive in battle. (There were many instances where the order was to keep alive the virgin girls and young children, and livestock.) Again, my understanding of the passages Like you, still learning, and Loving It!!! Cheri |
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5 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | bowler | 207084 | ||
Cheri I see what you mean about the 7 nations were destroyed - that would be the "nations of inheritance" - "go into the land which I am giving you to possess it", "destroy all of your enemies in the LAND (nations) which I am giving you". As oppossed to "enemies from far off" coutries who come into the new land of inheritance on a conquest, not Israel going off to a Gentile country to get wives.:-) The battle would come by invasion from Gentile nations not "within those nations destroyed and land of the promised land from God, the inheritance", nations far away. I could be wrong. Just a worthless son. blessings abound, bowler |
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6 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | skccab | 207085 | ||
Bowler :-) I think between the two of us, we might just have it! Or at least a beginning of a better understanding, and that's a good start!! Yes? I'm sorry my wording wasn't so good. Cheri |
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7 | Which Enemies Could Israel Marry? | Deut 21:10 | bowler | 207086 | ||
Cheri Your wording was fine. I think we just might have hit on something plausible there between the two of us!:-) Ephesians 4:3 being didlgent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Just a worthless son. blessings abound, bowler |
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