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1 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209827 | ||
Shalom y'all, Meta brought this up in one of his posts, but I didn't want him to think I was "picking" on him over it - it just got me to wondering. I've spent the last 10 days trying to figure out the "order of Melchezidek" and the "Levitical order." That is what "the order" is and what does the word "order" pertain to? What I've come up with is this: Levitical order - animal, concurrant, continuous (almost like a 1 Jn. 1:9 prayer but a sacrifice instead) Melchezidek - himself, once (only he never did offer himself so why is it called the Order of Melchedizek?) Still have some work to do....:-) Anyone have something else? I'd be interested to know. Cheri |
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2 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | DocTrinsograce | 209833 | ||
Hi, Cheri... The author of Hebrews is basing his argument on the prophetic word of King David in Psalm 110:4. An "order" is an established succession of religious rank. The contrast is between the Levitical order of Aaron, to Israel -- His chosen, called out ones (Exodus 3:10) -- and the superior, supersessional order of Christ, to the church -- His chosen, called out ones (Matthew 16:18). In Him, Doc |
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3 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209838 | ||
Doc, Thanks for answering, but there still remains the one question - what was/is the "order of Meschezidek"? Why was our Master compared to him? I can see the similarities and contrasts with the Levitical order, but Melchezidek I don't really see. This is probably one of those questions that I'm just looking at too closely to see the answer for myself... :-) Cheri |
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4 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | stjohn | 209839 | ||
Hello sister Cheri, it's always good to see you posting and studying to find truth in God's word. :-) Here is something that I hope will help you to understand who Melchizedek is, and how he relates to, and is seen as, a type of Christ. --"Melchizedek, whose name means “king of righteousness,” was a king of Salem (Jerusalem) and priest of the Most High God (Genesis 14:18-20; Psalm 110:4; Hebrews 5:6-11; 6:20-7:28). Melchizedek's sudden appearance and disappearance in the Book of Genesis are somewhat mysterious. Melchizedek and Abraham first met after Abram's defeat of Chedorlaomer and his three allies. Melchizedek presented bread and wine to Abraham and his weary men, demonstrating friendship. He bestowed a blessing on Abraham in the name of El Elyon ("God Most High"), and praised God for giving Abraham a victory in battle (Genesis 14:18-20). Abraham presented Melchizedek with a tithe (a tenth) of all the items he had gathered. By this act Abraham indicated that he recognized Melchizedek as a fellow-worshiper of the one true God as well as a priest who ranked higher spiritually than himself. Melchizedek's existence shows that there were people other than Abraham and his family who served the true God. In Psalm 110, a messianic psalm written by David (Matthew 22:43), Melchizedek is seen as a type of Christ. This theme is repeated in the Book of Hebrews, where both Melchizedek and Christ are considered kings of righteousness and peace. By citing Melchizedek and his unique priesthood as a type, the writer shows that Christ's new priesthood is superior to the old Levitical order and the priesthood of Aaron (Hebrews 7:1-10). Some propose that Melchizedek was actually a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. While possible, this view is unlikely. Melchizedek was the king of Salem. Would Jesus Christ have come to earth and ruled as an earthly king over a city? Melchizedek is similar to Christ in that they are both priests and kings; therefore Melchizedek could be called a “type” of Christ, but they are not the same person."--http://www.gotquestions.org I'm not sure that he is or is not the pre-incarnate Christ, it would be hard to totally convince me that he was or wasn't; there are some striking similarities in their name's and priesthood. But we'll see someday! :-) Some of this, maybe, is one of those, Deut 29:29 things. :-) Shalom and God bless John |
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5 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209840 | ||
Shalom John, Just that time of year, thinking a lot on the priestly things :-) You're probably right about the Dt. 29:29 - guess I'll just put it on the back burner for now. Maybe it will become clearer some time later... Thanks for the help though... Along with the possiblity of Melchezidek (Hebrew Malki - king Tz'edek - righteouness)being the incarnate Son, how about Shem? They were contemporaries...??? Just something to chew on.... Cheri |
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6 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | stjohn | 209842 | ||
Hi again Cheri: you mentioned Shem? I don't think so, and here's why: --"Ver. 18. And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine,.... Both the Targums of Jonathan and Jerusalem say, this is Shem the son of Noah, and which is the sense of the Jewish writers in general, and of many Christian ones; but, though it is highly probable he was living at this time, yet it is not easy to account for it why his name should be changed, or that he should reign in a country in the possession of his brother's son; or that he should meet Abram, and congratulate him on the slaughter of one of his own descendants, as Chedorlaomer was; and especially it cannot be said of him that he was without father or mother, or that those were not known, since Shem's parentage and pedigree are famous enough;" -- John Gill want more? .... :-) John |
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7 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209845 | ||
Hiya again, Like I said just something to chew on. And I would be thinking in the "spiritual" sense of his parentage being without beginning or ending because of the flood. Not to worry, wasn't wanting a debate or anything, just threw it out as something I heard as a possibility. Nothing more. I don't think it holds any more or less than him being the pre-incarnate Son. There's so little about him, that I think he's someone we'll just have to wait to meet and find out all about him then. That will be fun. Cheri |
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8 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | stjohn | 209853 | ||
Hi Cheri, if you go to http://www.freegrace.net/gill/ and read Gill's exposition on Hebrews ch7 (he speaks extensively on Melchizedek) Then read that chapter in light of his exposit; I am pretty sure it will give you what you may be looking for, or at least, shed some light of truth on this, mystery of Melchizedek. Happy hunting:-) John |
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9 | What is the meaning of "the order of..." | Heb 1:1 | skccab | 209854 | ||
Hi John, Thanks, John. Wow, that's a LOT of reading!!!!! Will take at least a full 24 waking hours to get thru it, lol, but am starting it now (on verse 1). John Gill is good, I like him, but soooo much to read with his commentary (and I also tend to forget him). Cheri |
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