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1 | Who is guilty as charged? | Heb 10:29 | Mommapbs | 94980 | ||
According to this verse, WHO is guilty of trampling "under foot the Son of God and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace"? |
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2 | Who is guilty as charged? | Heb 10:29 | New Creature | 95003 | ||
Dear Mommapbs; In answer to your question "According to this verse, (Heb 10:29)WHO is guilty of trampling "under foot the Son of God and has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has insulted the Spirit of grace"? I personally believe the verse itself, provides answer to your question. "he who has regarded as unclean the blood of the covenant by which he was (past tense) sanctified." In my understanding, only believers are ever said to have been sanctified (set apart). So I don't see how this could refer to unbelievers. Robertson's Word Pictures of the New Testament Hebrews 10:29 How much (poswi). Instrumental case of degree or measure. An argument from the less to the greater, "the first of Hillel's seven rules for exegesis" (Moffatt). Think ye (dokeite). An appeal to their own sense of justice about apostates from Christ. Sorer (xeironov). "Worse," comparative of kakov (bad). Punishment (timwriav). Genitive case with axiwthsetai (first future passive of axiow, to deem worthy). The word timwria originally meant vengeance. Old word, in LXX, only here in N.T. Who hath trodden under foot the Son of God (o ton uion tou teou katapathsav). First aorist active articular participle of katapatew, old verb (Matthew 5:13) for scornful neglect like Zechariah 12:3. See same idea in Hebrews 6:6. Wherewith he was sanctified (en wi hgiasth). First aorist passive indicative of agiazw. It is an unspeakable tragedy that should warn every follower of Christ not to play with treachery to Christ (cf. 6:4-8). An unholy thing (koinon). Common in the sense of uncleanness as Peter used it in Acts 10:14. Think of one who thus despises "the blood of Christ wherewith he was sanctified." And yet there are a few today who sneer at the blood of Christ and the gospel based on his atoning sacrifice as "a slaughter house" religion! Hath done despite (enubrisav). First aorist active participle of enubrizw, old verb to treat with contumely, to give insult to, here only in the N.T. It is a powerful word for insulting the Holy Spirit after receiving his blessings (6:4). But I'm sure others in this forum will have different opinions on this Grace to you New Creature |
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3 | Who is guilty as charged? | Heb 10:29 | Mommapbs | 95063 | ||
Greetings New Creature! You wrote: "So I don't see how this could refer to unbelievers." I guess I am a Forum participant who has a different opinion! First of all, the word "punishment" is a tip off. Christ took the punishment for our sinfulness upon Himself at the cross - His death was the "propitiation" for our sins and for the WHOLE WORLD. (1 John 2:2) As believers, we have no fear of God's wrath or punishment for our sins. Those who are guilty, are those who reject Christ - and the punishment for those who have a knowledge of the Truth and deliberately refuse to believe can expect to be punished even more severely - my opinion based upon this Scripture. Jesus died for the ungodly, (which we all are)- Romans 5:8 - yet from God's eternal perspective, Jesus also died for the godly (which many ungodly will become by faith in Him). If we say that this Scripture is for believers, we deny the "finished" work of Christ" and if this is so, then there is no sacrifice for sins left! Well, this is how I am led to believe. Consider this - we are saved from God's wrath by Jesus' atonement for our sin on the cross - this knowledge will not free us from the fear of punishment - but our faith in this will! Romans 8:1-3 Blessings, mommapbs |
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4 | Who is guilty as charged? | Heb 10:29 | New Creature | 95103 | ||
As I said others will disagree with my opinion Love New Creature |
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5 | Who is guilty as charged? | Heb 10:29 | Mommapbs | 95104 | ||
New Creature - there are many who will also agree with your position, for a time, I too was living under fear of punishment for the sin I recognized in my life - all that it did was to rob me of the joy of my salvation (my complete and total forgiveness in Christ) and kept me focused on MY performance (rather than what God in CHrist is doing through me 1 Cor 2:10). Remembering that Jesus died for ALL, changes the way that I respond to those who mistreat me - their sins as well as mine were paid for, how dare I harbor ill-will toward them!? (And yet, at times I still do . . . does this mean that I "trample" what Christ has done for me - of course not, for I have accepted/received His gift and He will not take it back. I am secure in His hand.) Consider Felix in Acts 24: 22-27. He knew the Gospel message, he was even frightened by the result of its rejection - judgement - yet did he receive it? Are there not many folks today who listen politely to the gospel, they may even regularly attend our churches, Bible Studies, sing in the choir, etc and go about their lives in an orderly and moral manner . . . yet they see no need for anything more; they think they have done it all right, and yet their hearts are uncircumcized; they know all about Grace, but have never recieved it. Hence they live under a performance based order that is indeed and "insult" to the work of the Holy Spirit. I'm not trying to change your mind, just showing you how God changed me. Blessings, mommapbs |
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6 | Who is guilty as charged? | Heb 10:29 | New Creature | 95105 | ||
Mommapbs Once again in Heb 10:29 those guilty are have said to have been sanctified. Unless unbelievers are sanctified this verse cannot apply to them and as far as I can tell is a serious warning to believers. I also agree with the following statement concerning Heb 10:29 which comes from Coffman Commentaries on the New testament. "the sad, unwelcome fact, and one almost unbelievable, that even after one is a true and devoted Christian, enjoying all the privileges of salvation, even "sanctified" as in this verse, that even then such a person can defect from the Lord and lose his soul. All efforts to alter this fact, whether by tampering with the text of scripture or by explanations that deny the text, should be rejected." Therefore I respectfully disagree with your opinion Grace to you New Creature |
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