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1 | do u tithe on unemployment checks | 1 Tim 1:8 | wordoer | 220611 | ||
Hello BradK, Surely it is NT, the tithe is mentioned several times in the NT. The word itself means a tenth. To that I might add that God does not change. The scriptures you reference seem to show offerings which could be considered as part of, or above and beyond the tenth (tithe). Oh, yes we owe Him everything, but He has given to us to steward. You don't have to tithe, But the Lord offers a blessing to those that do, and a curse to those who don't. So I would agree with free will, for that reason I will to gladly give a tenth. This tithing message is actually a national one, as He says in Malachi 3:8 "Will a man rob God? Yet you are robbing Me! But you say, 'How have we robbed You?' In tithes and offerings. Mal 3:9 "You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing Me, the whole nation of you! wordoer |
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2 | do u tithe on unemployment checks | 1 Tim 1:8 | BradK | 220612 | ||
Hello Wordoer, I can only answer that it appears you are confusing what was directed to Isreal as belonging to the Church. Thought the word "tithe" may be used in the NT, in what context? Is it prescribed as a command? I believe there's a distinction. Mal. 3:8-9 is not a proof-text command or promise to the Body of Christ. Since we have been "blessed with every spiritual blessing in the heavenlies in Christ" (Eph. 1:3), what more are we to seek? Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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3 | do u tithe on unemployment checks | 1 Tim 1:8 | wordoer | 220636 | ||
Hello BradK, I assure you I am not confusing the promises made to Israel with the church, and I agree at this time that Mal. 3:8-9 is not a proof-text command or promise to the Body of Christ, it is however a promise to Israel. I was just reading in Hebrews Chapter 7, and the context of the tithe was giving a tenth of Abrahams spoils or increase to Melchizedek. It is strange that this is relating back to the OT. It seems things haven't changed from OT to NT and the basis on which the Law is set that obedience to it will bring blessings, and disobedience would bring a curse. I don't see at this time the tithe as a command, unless a requirement to recieve blessings would be considered a command, I have to look into that a little more, I'm still learning and growing. In answer to your last question, I thank Him for placing me in this position, and I would have to say that I am seeking the Kingdom. ( Matt 13:45). Now I would like to know if anyone reading could show me if the tithe is commanded. Thank you, wordoer |
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4 | do u tithe on unemployment checks | 1 Tim 1:8 | BradK | 220639 | ||
Hello Wordoer, Thanks for your response. Here's some additional perspective that may help: I noted the references to "tithe" and "tithes" in NT. Tithe is only used in Mt. 23:23 and Lk. 11:42. Tithing is used in Lk. 18:12 and Heb. 7:8-9. In regard to Hebrews, yes there are multiples of references to and quotes from the OT. The summary of it can be said to show the superiority of Christ over the OT system! None of the NT references -within context- are teaching the continuation of the OT tithe. You state, "...the basis on which the Law is set that obedience to it will bring blessings, and disobedience would bring a curse." Remember, we're not under law, but under grace (Rom. 6:14). Your statement takes us back to Deut. 28 and would specifically refer to Isreal- not the Church! Isreal was told that their obedience would bring about God's blessing, and their consequent disobedience would bring about His curse- which are listed in 28:16ff. If we as believers are under a performance standard, then we're not under grace (Rom.11:6). I would also submit, that if we're facing "curses" from God for our disobedience, then Christ's sacrifice was not wholly sufficient to atone for our sin (Heb. 10:18). The tithe was established to support the priest and Levites. See Duet. 26:12-16- "When you have finished paying all the tithe of your increase in the third year, the year of tithing, then you shall give it to the Levite, to the stranger, to the orphan and to the widow, that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied." Note also who it was directed to: Num. 18:21-26 "To the sons of Levi, behold, I have given all the tithe in Israel for an inheritance, in return for their service which they perform, the service of the tent of meeting." The NT believer is under the principle of "free will" giving as taught by paul in 2 Cor. 8:10- 9:15. I would offer that 10 percent is a good starting place, but not a hard-and-fast rule! Speasking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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5 | do u tithe on unemployment checks | 1 Tim 1:8 | Searcher56 | 220643 | ||
Scripture ... Gen 14:20, 28:22; Exo 23:16-19, Lev 27:20; Num 18:12-26; Deu 12:6-19, 14:22-29, 26:12-15; 2 Cor 9:7; Heb 7:6 ... God's day to you, Brad, This is a repost ... The tithe is gross, based on Firstfruits (Exo 23:16-19). There were three tithes While a "tithe" means 10 percent, there were three tithes given: 1) the general tithe paid to the Levites (Lev 27:20, Num 18:21), who in turn to the preists (vs 26). 2) the sacred meal tithe (Deu 12:6-7,17-19, 14:22-27) which was brought yearly to the tabernacle and eaten before the Lord. 3) The tri-annual tithe to the poor (Deu 14:28-29, 26:12-15) So that was 19 percent per year and 27 percent every three years, average 22 percent. Some more information on tithing, I had in my old post. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek (Gen. 14:20; Heb. 7:6); and Jacob vowed unto the Lord to give a tenth (Gen. 28:22). These were given before the Law. In the NT, do not count all your seeds to make sure you give a tenth of all and neglect something greater - justice, mercy, and faith (Mat. 23:23). Does this passage say we should not tithe, or does it make a comparison? Some don't think we should have to pay even one tithe/tenth ... "Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver" (2 Cor 9:7). Hopefully we give more than 10 percent. Searcher |
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