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1 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 181083 | ||
Because Jesus said the Holy Spirit would remain FOREVER In His Service, Cuddle |
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2 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | jlhetrick | 181088 | ||
Jesus didn't say the Holy Spirit would "remain" forever. He said that the Holy Spirit will "stay with you" forever. Again, I'm not arguing the identify of the "restrainer" just clarifying the text. God bless, Jeff |
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3 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 181089 | ||
3306 meno men'-o a primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy):--abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own. STRONG note the word remain in the definition for the word used in Joh 14:16 regarding stay with/be with I do not think you are arguing. I am enjoying the friendly debate/discussion. I hope I do not come across as arguementitive. You and the others are making me use my noggin' In His Service, Cuddle |
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4 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | jlhetrick | 181092 | ||
Yes, Cuddle thank you. I too looked up the Greek. But the question is, "stay", "abide", "remain" where? "with you" as it's stated in the verse. So regarding this, where will He remain in the rapture? It is already established by Scripture that the Holy Ghost is a person of the triune God. He is omnipresent. This promise in John does not effect that. He was present before as we see Him descending on Christ and leading Him into the desert after John baptized Him. We see Him over and over again in the OT. The promise in John 14:16 is that related to the work of the Holy Ghost in the ministry of the apostles and I believe all Christians. It has nothing to do with the existance of the Holy Ghost in all places in all time. He is omnipresent. So relating the verse to the question and topic at hand just isn't necessary and accomplishes nothing toward our understanding of who the "restrainer" is. This is the point I am trying to make. To establish that the Holy Spirit is not the restrainer requires a corroborated argument from Scripture as presented by CDBJ. Pointing to a verse out of context will not accomplish the task. I'm glad you do not see me as being 'arguementitive" because I certainly am not trying to be. How else do we adhere to 2Timothy 2:15 if not a careful consideration of the text. As far as I'm concerned you are a breath of fresh air on the Forum. Thanks for your contribution. God bless, Jeff |
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