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1 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 181049 | ||
NC, I do not believe you have addressed my question about John 14:16...could you please support your theory of the restrainer with the word of Christ stated at John 14:16? And explain HOW you can still support that theory without contradicting Scripture. I do not mean to be difficult, but the issue of 2 Thess. has been laid to rest as far I am concerned by the post/reply of CDBJ a few days ago in his references to Dan. and the archangel, Michael. Have you considered his theory at all? I think it should be considered because it does not seem to me that it comprimises the Holy Scriptures and it makes sense! Again, I could be wrong, I obviously do not know for certain or I would not have posted this question to begin with. lol Anyway, this is a fun debate! In His Service, Cuddle |
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2 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | New Creature | 181078 | ||
Cuddle Once again, I don't see how John 14:16 relates in any way to 2 Thess 2:7 The indentity of the "restrainer" is something I am still looking at. Blessings NC |
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3 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 181083 | ||
Because Jesus said the Holy Spirit would remain FOREVER In His Service, Cuddle |
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4 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | jlhetrick | 181088 | ||
Jesus didn't say the Holy Spirit would "remain" forever. He said that the Holy Spirit will "stay with you" forever. Again, I'm not arguing the identify of the "restrainer" just clarifying the text. God bless, Jeff |
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5 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 181089 | ||
3306 meno men'-o a primary verb; to stay (in a given place, state, relation or expectancy):--abide, continue, dwell, endure, be present, remain, stand, tarry (for), X thine own. STRONG note the word remain in the definition for the word used in Joh 14:16 regarding stay with/be with I do not think you are arguing. I am enjoying the friendly debate/discussion. I hope I do not come across as arguementitive. You and the others are making me use my noggin' In His Service, Cuddle |
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6 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | jlhetrick | 181092 | ||
Yes, Cuddle thank you. I too looked up the Greek. But the question is, "stay", "abide", "remain" where? "with you" as it's stated in the verse. So regarding this, where will He remain in the rapture? It is already established by Scripture that the Holy Ghost is a person of the triune God. He is omnipresent. This promise in John does not effect that. He was present before as we see Him descending on Christ and leading Him into the desert after John baptized Him. We see Him over and over again in the OT. The promise in John 14:16 is that related to the work of the Holy Ghost in the ministry of the apostles and I believe all Christians. It has nothing to do with the existance of the Holy Ghost in all places in all time. He is omnipresent. So relating the verse to the question and topic at hand just isn't necessary and accomplishes nothing toward our understanding of who the "restrainer" is. This is the point I am trying to make. To establish that the Holy Spirit is not the restrainer requires a corroborated argument from Scripture as presented by CDBJ. Pointing to a verse out of context will not accomplish the task. I'm glad you do not see me as being 'arguementitive" because I certainly am not trying to be. How else do we adhere to 2Timothy 2:15 if not a careful consideration of the text. As far as I'm concerned you are a breath of fresh air on the Forum. Thanks for your contribution. God bless, Jeff |
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