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1 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 180996 | ||
I use to agree it was the Holy Spirit, but if that were true, I think it would contradict Scripture(John 14:16) So to answer your question...I dunno, I just wanted to know if anyone else knew. When you replied I noticed a past related note at the bottom in the box. Look at the one from 09/26/01 In His Service, Cuddle |
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2 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | New Creature | 181000 | ||
Hi Cuddle I read the post you directed me to which was composed by Pastor John Moran. I agree with that post from him. here is something he stated in his post which I believe is important: 1) "The nature of the restraint must be supernatural." and"Both of these facts indicate that the restrainer could not be a human being." Like me, John Moran believes in the supernatural, non-human nature of the "restrainer" The only force I believe is powerful enough to restrain such lawlessness is the Holy Spirit. By the way, I don't believe John 14:6 relates to 2 Thess. 2:7 in any way. Blessings NC |
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3 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | CDBJ | 181004 | ||
Hi New Creature, It can’t be the Holy Spirit because He is Omnipresent and can’t be removed or restrained. It isn’t the church because the one restrained is in the masculine gender and the church is always spoken of in the feminine gender and besides that the restrainer is in the singular. Here is a scenario that fits and it’s expressed by Daniel and covering the same exact point in time as spoken of in II Thess. First for reference, Daniel 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince. Michael the archangel is to overseer of God’s chosen people. Daniel 12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. Michael is the one that God has assigned to watch over his people but there is going to come a time when he is told to stand back and not restrain. Matthew 24:21-22 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. When Michael’s restraining presence is removed the antichrist will have a free hand. Speaking of the antichrist; Rev. 13:5-8 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. I believe that things are coming to light now, that Daniel was told to not to reveal at that time in history. I believe this because we are nearing the last days and things are revealed that were obscure before. Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. Food for thought? CDBJ |
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4 | 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 WHO? | 2 Thess 2:7 | cuddle | 181008 | ||
CDBJ, Thank you for these Scriptures. I have not had time to carefully examine, but from just reading the post I think you may have answered this question of debate. In His Service, Cuddle |
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