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1 | Which saints will be left behind? | 1 Thess 4:17 | CDBJ | 188602 | ||
Greetings M.Royal, Why do people assume that the tribulation and the wrath of God are one and the same? The book of Revelation clearly shows that God's wrath doesn't start until after the breaking of the sixth seal. Rev. 6:15-17 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Compare the previous verses plus the beginning of Rev. 7 with what Paul taught in Thes. 1:7-9 2 Thes. 1:7-9 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Paul said rest with “us”, he meant living saints i.e. the living believers alive when it happened. The book of seals containing the wrath of God is held in check until the conditions of each seal it met and when the last seal is broken then God’s wrath will be unleashed by angles at the first part of chapter 7 the seals designate what must first take place on earth before God’s angles are turned loose for God’s onslaught, which will start with fire. God’s Wrath is against unbelievers that have be making God’s Children miserable. and troubling them under the dictates of antichrist. CDBJ |
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2 | What is the differance? | 1 Thess 4:17 | M.Royal | 188642 | ||
Hello CDBJ, What is the differance between the tribulation and the wrath of God? M.Royal |
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3 | What is the differance? | 1 Thess 4:17 | CDBJ | 188644 | ||
Hi M.Royal, The tribulation, as it were, is satanic vengeance against God people. Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. The Lord will remove His loved ones and as soon as He does He will pour out His wrath on the one left that have refused His grace message of the gospel. The day of Christ and the day of the lord are two different events but both taking place on the same day, once we are removed up to safety. God is literally going to hammer those that are responsible for making our lives miserable in the last days. Those believers that endure the worst persecution that God’s people have ever endured since will be delivered, i.e. saved from the hideous working of Satan’s man the antichrist. Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 2 Thes. 2:1-5 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? Speaking of Jesus and when He comes for His own. 2 Thes. 2:9-12 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. The big problem is that believers “are being deceived” into thinking that they won’t have to endure any persecution so as a result they won’t be ready for what’s going to befall them. But will pour out His wrath on the tormentors and it will be on the very same day that Jesus come to be glorified in His elect. 2 Thes. 1:8-9 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Just like it was the day Noah was put safely in the arc and just like “the day” that lot left Sodom. 2 Thes. 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. CDBJ |
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4 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | M.Royal | 188668 | ||
Hello CDBJ, If the Lord removes his loved ones before he pours out his wrath on those that refused his grace message of the gospel, why does he leave his 144,000 servants behind during the time when God pours out his wrath, since they were here during the reign of the antichrist? M.Royal |
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5 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | CDBJ | 188685 | ||
Greetings M.Royal, Good question: The end times of the gentiles and the return to Israel all takes place in the 7th chapter of Revelation. Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. The 144,000 is the main body of repopulating force the God will use when His grafts back in the natural branches. The 144000 are sealed “against God’s wrath” just before the angels release their destructive powers on the earth. This repopulating group will start the population process along with a small remnant in the days following the cleansing acts of God. Rev. 7:2-4 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. I think a lot of people get confused while reading the book of Revelation because it’s “not written as a progressive” book. There are lists epics mentioned, Example: Topics A, B, C, D, and E, then it may go back and explain the details of A and B at length and then move to C and how E fits or ties in with A and B. Rev. 12:6 And the woman (Israel) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. Rev. 12:14 And to the woman (Israel) were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, (3 ½ years) from the face of the serpent. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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6 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | M.Royal | 188718 | ||
Hi CDBJ, Thanks for your help and the points you have made. Can you please check Rev. 14:1-5. regarding the 144,000 and repolulating, as it states that they are not defiled by women, and that they are virgins, and without fault before God. Yours sincerely M.Royal |
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7 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | skccab | 188753 | ||
MRoyal Does the Word state that they remain such in the millennium? I've heard of many debates over "once saved, always saved" but I don't believe I've ever heard of "once a virgin always a virgin." So where does the Word state that once their mission is complete that they are not released to live "normal" lives (as if anyone could live a normal life after going through what they will experience). cheri |
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8 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | M.Royal | 188771 | ||
Hi Cheri, This is what is stated; These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the first fruits unto God (The Church) and unto the lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God. So as they are before the throne in that state, that is how they got there without change. Yours sincerely M.Royal |
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9 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | skccab | 188773 | ||
Hi MRoyal, What verse is that? cheri |
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10 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | M.Royal | 188785 | ||
Hi Cheri, That is revelation 14:1-5. M.Royal |
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11 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | skccab | 188787 | ||
Mroyal, Rev 14:1-5 - ...(4.) Their character and description. [1.] They are described by their chastity and purity: They are virgins. They had not defiled themselves either with corporal or spiritual adultery; they had kept themselves clean from the abominations of the antichristian generation. [2.] By their loyalty and stedfast adherence to Christ: They follow the Lamb withersoever he goes; they follow the conduct of his word, Spirit, and providence, leaving it to him to lead them into what duties and difficulties he pleases. [3.] By their former designation to this honour: These were redeemed from among men, being the first-fruits to God, and to the Lamb, Rev_14:4. Here is plain evidence of a special redemption: They were redeemed from among men. Some of the children of men are, by redeeming mercy, distinguished from others: They were the first-fruits to God, and to the Lamb, his choice ones, eminent in every grace, and the earnest of many more who should be followers of them, as they were of Christ. [4.] By their universal integrity and conscientiousness: There was no guile found in them, and they were without fault before the throne of God. They were without any prevailing guile, any allowed fault; their hearts were right with God, and, as for their human infirmities, they were freely pardoned in Christ. This is the happy remnant who attend upon the Lord Jesus as their head and Lord; he is glorified in them, and they are glorified in him. - Henry These "come out of" the tribulation and could be actual virgins or as Henry states. |
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12 | Why would he leave his servants? | 1 Thess 4:17 | M.Royal | 188802 | ||
Hi Cheri, Please remember that before Henry stated it, it was already written in the scriptures that they are virgins. Hence the reason for the written word being put first before the words of men. Yours sincerely M.Royal |
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