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1 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | humbledbyhisgrace | 203106 | ||
Greetings Brother and thanks for the response! What is your biblical understanding / position on this? (i.e. my original question - last post). And if I may be so bold as to ask, what was your biblical position to "object" to the pastor being called in the church that was "elder ruled"? Steve |
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2 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | Searcher56 | 203110 | ||
God's day to you, Steve, 1 Corinthians 12 is my may thrust ... verses 11 and 18 shows me God choses our gifts and to be preacher, when one doesn't has the gift usurps God and His choice. Also, the same is true if we have a gift and don't use it. "But one and the same Spirit works all these things, distributing to each one individually just as He wills" (1 Cor 12:11). "But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired" (1 Cor 12:18). It was why we need to know our spiritual gift(s) and then use them. I think it should be part of Christianity 101. Searcher |
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3 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | humbledbyhisgrace | 203125 | ||
Hey Brother, Sorry for the delay. I had to go out of town after work today and just recently got back in. Anyway, I agree with the scripture you pointed to. It was these and also Ephesians 4:16 that I was thinking of. I really wanted to see the scriptures used to point this out because there seems to be so many who do not understand this. And based on these scriptures I would also agree with most of what you have said. I don't know if "knowing our spiritual gifts" quite fits into Christianity 101 though. If it were this basic then I doubt there would be so much confusion and I doubt there would be so many Christians without a clue as to what their spiritual gift(s) were. I personally have seen many writings by mankind on how to identify your spiritual gift. But to my knowledge I don't recall any of them ever pointing to scripture to validate their claims :-( I have to confess, I have wondered about this myself. And have even developed an opinion :-) but I no longer accept my opinions or that of others if it cannot be validated by scripture. That's not to say I count it as nothing. But rather find it better not to hang my hat on it :-) Which leads me to the next question. Can you think of any place in scripture that would give an understanding of how one is to determine their spiritual gift? Steve |
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4 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | Searcher56 | 203128 | ||
God's day to you, Steve, The reason I would teach "knowing our spiritual gifts" as part of the basics class, is so that one knows where they fit in. I don't know of Scripture that tells us how we know what gift(s) we have. To compound this from our feeble minds is, I see they can change. When the Spirit *wills* (1 Cor 12:11) ... means it is continuous, which I think He can add, or take away. Also, some gifts can be thought as "natural" ... and I wonder if there is a difference. If I have a natural gift of helps (1 Cor 12:28), that I used before I was a believer, can it be considered a "spiritual" gift? Searcher Searcher |
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5 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | humbledbyhisgrace | 203145 | ||
Brother, I agree of the importance of each member finding their appointed place and serving in the body of Christ! But as we both have agreed, we don't know of scripture that specifically points the way in determining ones gifts. Or if there is I still have not found it. Considering that, I find it hard to imagine a new convert able to find his/her way in the matter :-) However, moving on I think it's an interesting question you ask regarding "natural" and "spiritual" gifts. Considering the spiritual gifts are given to members of the body of Christ and it is for the edification of the body I'm not sure how the "natural" gift could be the same. Does God give spiritual gifts to those who are not members of the body? It's a good question! Hopefully others will jump in!!! Steve |
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6 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | azurelaw | 203146 | ||
Dear Steve and Jeff, Just want to throw in a question : How should we consider the relationship between spiritual gifts and the fruit of the Holy Spirit in a functional sense? Shalom Azure |
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7 | More harm then good? | Eph 4:16 | srbaegon | 203147 | ||
Hi Azure, I have the correct first name, so I'll jump in. :-) The fruit of the Spirit is presented in opposition to the deeds of the flesh in a larger section concerning the freedom we have in Christ (Gal. 5:13-26). That being the case, the fruit Paul speaks of should be a natural part of every believer's life. All will be demonstrating in a practical way, love, joy, peace, patience, etc. In contrast, the spiritual gifts are given sovereignly by the Spirit (1 Cor 12) for the needs of the church. Not all believers have a specific gift (Rom 12; 1 Cor 12). Not all gifts may be present in a local church though all are walking in the Spirit. Steve |
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