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1 | is water-baptism needed for salvation? | Eph 2:8 | Godinus | 223859 | ||
Part 1 CDBJ Acts16:31 They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." Why did you neglect to mention that Paul did express that all the household were baptized immediately. Acts16:33 And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household. You make this statement 1 "Anyone depending on their works by being baptized by water for salvation has actually destroyed their hope for salvation." 2 "Faith for salvation must be an “undivided trust” in what God did for mankind in the person of His Son Jesus Christ." This is the point where you are missing the understanding "Anyone depending on their works by being baptized" In order for this statement of yours to be true and fill the position of their works like you are saying then the act of baptism itself would have to come from their own head that baptism was something they could do in order to gain salvation but as you can see it was a mandate to the disciples from Jesus Himself. By that mandate it is showing that baptism is not in the realm of - - their works. Matthew 28:19 "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Moving on we see that Paul says we have repented from dead works. Hebrews 6:1 Therefore leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ, let us press on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, By our accepting Christ for the forgiveness of sin we have ceased from our works. Heb 4:10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His. Take note that these two verses in Ephesians are the same as the one in Titus except the one in Titus shows us how this takes place. That through baptism we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit. You can then see this work as you call baptism is something God through the Holy Spirit does not us because we have come into His rest the work of baptism having been ordained before the foundations of the world that we would walk in it. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God. Ephesians 2:9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them. Godinus |
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2 | is water-baptism needed for salvation? | Eph 2:8 | CDBJ | 223866 | ||
When was the thief on the cross baptized after he believed: he wasn’t, yet he was in fact saved and God is no respecter of persons! (Adam Clark Commentary) Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness—Those who were foolish, disobedient, and deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, could not possibly have works of righteousness to plead; therefore, if saved at all, they must be saved by mercy. See the note on Ephesians 2:8; and see a discourse entitled, Salvation by Faith proved, 8vo., 1816, in which I have examined every system invented by man for his restoration to the Divine favor and image: and have demonstrated, by mere reason, their utter insufficiency to answer the end for which they have been invented; and have proved that the doctrine of salvation by faith is the only rational way of salvation. By the washing of regeneration. Undoubtedly the apostle here means baptism, the rite by which persons were admitted into the Church, and the visible sign of the cleansing, purifying influences of the Holy Spirit, which the apostle immediately subjoins. Baptism is only a sign, and therefore should never be separated from the thing signified; but it is a rite commanded by God himself, and therefore the thing signified should never be expected without it. By the renewing of the Holy Ghost we are to understand, not only the profession of being bound to live a new life, but the grace that renews the heart, and enables us thus to live; so the renewing influences are here intended. Baptism changes nothing; the grace signified by it cleanses and purifies. They who think baptism to be regeneration, neither know the Scriptures nor the power of God; therefore they do greatly err. If the apostle John knew that (water) baptism was a needed part of salvation he would have included it in his gospel message stated in John 20:30-31 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book: 31But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. CDBJ |
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3 | is water-baptism needed for salvation? | Eph 2:8 | lionheart | 223888 | ||
Good day to all, This has been an oft discussed subject here on SBF in the past. Our salvation is the most precious thing we possess, It is Gods greatest and most precious gift to us. If our focus is on God and His Word we will see what saves and what doesn't. God doesn't make it a mystery to those who truly seek him. We can't allow doctrinal bias or preconceived ideas to cloud our vision, instead as 2 Timothy 2:15 states study to show ourself aproved unto God a workman that need not be ashamed rightly dividing the word of truth. It's all there for us. Are we willing to allow God and His Word to speak and then do what it says. I can say this, if we do we won't be disappointed. In Him, lionheart |
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4 | is water-baptism needed for salvation? | Eph 2:8 | CDBJ | 223899 | ||
Well taken! God's plan of salvation even as God himself hasn't changed since man first walked this earth. The Old Testament believers trusted in the work of the promised Messiah that was to come. We have the privilege of knowing who that Messiah is, Jesus Christ the righteous. God’s plan, for those who will inherit eternal life, is for those whom He foreknew to place the entirety of their hope of living with and in the presence of God for all eternity solely in the work that God would accomplish on the cross in the God Man Jesus the Christ. There was no baptism for those that trusted and believed God in the Old Testament that had anything thing at all to do with their salvation, and as such water baptism has noting to do with ones salvation in the New Testament! Malachi 3:6 (A) For I am the LORD, I change not; Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Trust in Christ “only for eternal life” or “try and add” to His finished work and miss out on the eternal blessings that God has for those that put “all” of their hope for the future in Jesus God’ unique Son! 1 John 5:10-13 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. 11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. CDBJ |
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